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Are you 'There' Mr Rudd or heading for the hills

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It's very simple as to how we actually do something about this barbaric practice. We elect into the senate as many One Nation people as we can.

I can assure you that we in One Nation abhor this outrageous unacceptable trade. I'm not talking about how people in the middle east treat these animals, I'm talking about the rank cruelty of live exporting of these poor unfortunate creatures.

Ian j
Posted by Ian j, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 8:45:10 PM
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One Nation
I didnt know you are registered again.
Since i noticed that only the NSW division is registered on the AEC website.

I take it your policy on animal welfare will be out soon.

The Question one has to ask why is it that Pauline is running as an independant than with one nation, bad blood, Bad executive, maybe cant trust anyone.

Interesting.
Posted by tapp, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 9:11:01 PM
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Yabby I agree.


Lets ask Peter Costello to go one step further to ensure ALL funds raised from the kind public go to the Animals.
Enlarge pens and build yards and supply more inspectors. Fund Free Range Pork Farms, Poultry Farms by expanding already exsisting intensive ones and train our youth how to run them.

Lets include all NFP organisations. Church based organisations as well.

The barrister looking after the Red cross appeal for Farm Hand Appeal a few years ago said this> Quote. 'Let me tell you right now--- Not One cent of that money is going towards buying feed for stock.'unquote. Mmm but they showed heaps of footage of dying animals and the public dug deep!

Two weeks ago I spoke with the Red Cross about their appeal and they relied that they had not thought about it.

You know and I know that Farmers dont ask for charity.

They would rather hide their starving stock out the back paddock and cry than let even the neighbour see it as the neighbour does liksewise.

MLA are funded by levies and the Government fifty x fifty Yabby.
The trade dollars of course comes into it big time.
Many people on those boards you mentioned have huge conflicts of interests.
So if MLA are funded half by the tax payer then the tax payers ought to have half of the say.
I have spoken to the head of MLA both here and in the Middle East and I assure you live exports are tax payer funded.
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Your correct about aproaching State Governments. You are correct regarding the problem of allowing us to bring in trained staff.

They dont want to help because of the political kick backs votes and trade dollar.[ not to mention donations to political partys]
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Animal groups dont get the fact that farmers are just as much victims of the National party as the animals. They have sold them out and flooded the country with cheap imports.
Because Animals groups dont understand they attack the farmers making it worse.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 9:58:47 PM
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"MLA are funded by levies and the Government fifty x fifty Yabby."

Wendy, you are free to check out the MLA budget. What is funded
is 50% of r&d. That includes many industry programmes at various
universities, into things like nutrition, plant breeding etc.

Not all levies collected by MLA are funded fifty fifty, thats
the point. But check for yourself.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 9:42:04 PM
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Yabby

50% 50% funding and they had to change it to the wording research uni pay off boys club AVA . Whatever

50% of thats is public money!

Here is some more research.
A Letter From A Oil Rigger first and then we will talk MLA and university donations. Hey lets do Landmark too. That could be real interesting.

Dear Yabby
“I worked in the Arabian Gulf on an offshore drilling rig for many years and have seen these ships carrying these sheep go past on a regular basis. You can smell these ships long before they come over the horizon, and for days afterward dead sheep would be floating past the rig, this is because the tide runs in a circular motion.

We could not understand why there were so many sheep tossed into the sea on a single day, until we saw a couple of them trying to swim, then we realised that this must have been the final clear out of those animals that would not have passed inspection, or would have died before sale.

Unless you have lived in the Middle East, you can have no comprehension of the people or customs or conditions that exist in that area.

To say that you have to send sheep live because there is no refrigeration is absolute Crap! There are supermarkets there just as there are here, and they sell frozen meat of every description.

I have seen an animal killed in the back streets of one of these countries and it was not a pretty sight. I only saw one and do not wish to see another. That poor sheep was being skinned with its throat only half cut, hanging up by its heels. The fate of some of these animals can only be described as being horrific.

There is no way that anyone with any sense of decency could ever condone the live animal trade! Not only is it cruel beyond belief, it is also economic stupidity. The fate that falls to some of these animals is indescribable and horrific.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 11:56:45 PM
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PALE CALLS FOR PUBLIC ENQUIRY INTO AUSTRADE and MLA

Breaking Rural News : AGRIBUSINESS AND GENERAL

Aust's key role in Pakistan rural revival
By JAMES NASON In Lahore, Pakistan - Australia
Wednesday, 28 February 2007

Austrade believes work by Australian businesses to help develop rural Pakistan will lead to serious market payoffs well into the future - for Pakistan and for Australia.

Better management practices and better animal and plant genetics will mean more money in the pockets of Pakistan! farmers.

In turn, that will mean greater opportunities for superior genetics, nutrition sources and know-how skills from! Australia.

Australia is already on the front foot in the Pakistan market after the Pakistan Government and Nestle - the country’s biggest dairy processor - hand picked Australia as the country from which to source its first live shipment of superior dairy genetics.

Those 2200 cattle are now effectively serving as Australian ambassadors.

The Pakistan Government is eager to boost this rural surge, because it needs a far more productive agricultural sector to feed its massive population, which is expected to double! within 25 years.

As a sign of the changes! taking place, this year Nestle’s milk factory in Pakistan will become its biggest milk factory in the world, processing 300 tonnes of milk every day.

“Australia enjoys a number of key advantages in Pakistan, including highly respected livestock and agricultural expertise, a clean, green disease free-status, and relatively similar climatic conditions.

"AND THEY CALL US THE CLEVER COUNTRY."

Austrade and Mark Vaile in the past have refused to assist in promoting Australia and Australian Farmers. HKM sort assistance from Austrade to invite Pakistan and other countries to work here! in Australia at grass root levels with Aussie Farmers.
They refuse any progects that might upset the cruel live animal exporters.

Austrade your job is to do both. Your jobs is to promote new business into Australia from other countries NOT the other way around


Well Austrade you have no problems doing just that so long as it is to benefit other countries. Too bad the the animals and jobs for Australians.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Thursday, 1 March 2007 8:56:33 AM
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