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Are you 'There' Mr Rudd or heading for the hills

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well maybe we should be thinking outside of the square
solutions to problems.

this can be done better
Posted by tapp, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 1:23:55 PM
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Continued OPEN LETTER TO MR RUD

Gold Coast Bulletin>
Labor appears more concerned with the future of Australia's livestock trade overseas than banning the practice. Even noted animal
lover, HM The Queen, passed the buck back to Australia when asked to intervene.

Cattle rate No. 2 on live export numbers. Sheep are export kings. Those imperfect or injured ones not fed to the sharks or minced alive await their fate at Middle Eastern slaugh­terhouses. Travel from farm to abattoir can take three months.

Animal welfare zealots reckon Australia's live export trade is 'a story of profit at any cost'. With six million sheep, 850 cattle and 100,000 goats shipped offshore each year there must be a juicy quid in the game for someone.

Why doesn't Labor home in on a Wesl Australian live export investigation which found the trade costs Australia $1.7 billion in local production plus $280 million in house­hold income and up to 12,000 jobs?

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils insists live exports are not necessary to comply with Muslim laws.

"That can be done in Australia under the Australian Government supervised Muslim Slaughter Program," said AFIC president Dr Ameer Ali. More than two million sheep were slaughtered in Australia last year for Middle Eastern markets and shipped frozen or chilled.

THE Gold Coast BULLETIN, Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - Page 17

Leigh Runner Tap. Quite rightly so with your comments.

Country Girl. You are misinfomred. Thats an old furfy those in the barbaric Industry and The Government put out years ago. Rodger Fletcher has the largest Halal Meat Supply From Australia and does not export one Animal Alive.

If you read the Media R Put out by Muslim leaders of this country they say opening its a myth!.

Rojo No Actually its the other way around. The public pay large subs to fund live exports. $20.00 dollars blood money and the export of our jobs. Whos a clever boy then?

FYI I will post that FACTS from Muslim Leaders on the following post.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 3:46:07 PM
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OPEN LETTER TO KEVIN
Dear Mr Rudd
Further to our contact last year regarding the direct link to AWB and live Animal Exports could you now explain to the Australian Public your lack of interest in the matter.[ Especially at that time]?
Surely Mr Rudd you may have felt the Australian public had a right to know this?
Do you conceive that given the publicity at that same time on 60 Minutes and other media outlets regarding live animal exports that as Shadow Minister of Trade you had a clear duty to inform the public?
Is there any reason you headed for the hills?

You say you are involved in beef and you understand.

May I put forward a proposal for a policy Mr Rudd regarding a alternative to live animal exports that 99% of the Australian Public Want banned.
For Several years we have held a MOU with Muslim Leaders and held meetings with Islamic and amoung others Malaysian Government Ds of Halal meats.

Malaysia see itself as the future hun of Halal supplying through JAKIM accredtitaions on to the middle East and through the world.

This is a win win for Australia considering their interest in our Free Green product and love of Australian meat
In short co Joint ventures.

Farmers working direct with Muslim purchasers overseas.

Its quite easy really and we will reopen some plants as well.
just imagine what a national Accreditation For Halal meat would do for Australia.

Surely working in close partnership forming friendships will also supply much needed improvements of Australia and Muslim Countries Relationships.
Anyway its the right thing to do.

Perhaps Mr Rudd you might like to lead the way if we could arrange a visit to your farm with overseas live importers of animals that are prepaired to look at this policy.
Who knows then we might all have some policies.

That would be a good example and dare I say a vote winner for the next elections.

Are you There Mr Rudd
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 4:16:53 PM
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well you'll be happy to tell me how much those live export subsidies are then and who are the recipients. I'm still not sure how you expect these people to pay for meat processed and packed under our wages system but you're the dreamer so lay it on me.
Posted by rojo, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 4:26:24 PM
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Breaking Rural News : LIVESTOCK

Rudd might, possibly, maybe, potentially now ban live sheep exports
Australia
Wednesday, 21 February 2007

Relax people, I am sure we will see a headline like this (above) shortly...

Rudd is a smart guy with a strong personal story but having lived in the US during the last Presidential campaign he is beginning to remind me of John Kerry...he's a Christian socialist one minute then he is against socialism, he thinks John Howard has made a harsher Australia but then he more aggressively attacks political correctness than the PM on the Big Day Out flag issue, he wants Iraq to be stable and supports the US alliance but doesn't want any troops there, he attacks Howard as a free market zealot but then criticizes the Howard government for spending too much money...the question is if you are left-of-centre who are you going to vote for in '07 because Kevin is clearly not your man...unless of course all those secularists on the left have suddenly found God.
Posted by matt@righthinker.com, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 5:03:32 PM
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Can you post your info on www.tapp.org.au with links to other info

if possible.

forum page is on the links & info page

thanks

stu
Posted by tapp, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 7:10:19 PM
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