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Yes it is true, the ABC makes an effort to be unbiased some of the time.
I am not sure if they have a deliberate policy to be seen to be
unbiased, but on the whole they do not achieve that aim.

On another tilt I have been promising myself to make a diary on all the
matters that they get obviously wrong on television. News items go to
air that should have been seen to be factually wrong if even the slightest
check had been made. They usually get technical things wrong and
considering that the TV stations are full of technical people it would
not take much effort to check.

I think the most appalling headline I saw was immediately after the
nuclear event in Japan was the headline in BIG letters MELTDOWN
before anyone knew whether such an event had happened.
Even a week later, there might be a partial melt but certainly not
in the impact of what was implied by the headline.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:10:25 AM
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Belly, I did get an update overnight but I don't have clearance to make it public, sorry about that, a bit of a fizzer really.

I can say that my previous post was a pretty accurate assessment and I’m sure that the real issues and actions taken will be in the public domain within weeks. The media may have much to answer for their alarmist speculation.

As to the near misses you asked about. In the US there has been six “partial meltdowns” since 1954. Four of these were “experimental”, one resulted from coolant flow testing and the only “production” unit was Three Mile Island. A total of three fatalities since January 3, 1961.

Soviet Union, Chernobyl. According to multiple agencies under the UN, including the IAEC, 28 died of acute radiation syndrome with possible future cancers put variously 4,000 to 7,000. So far 17 cancer deaths recorded in the 25 years since 1986.

Japan, unfolding as we speak and outcomes yet to be determined.

US Nuclear Propulsion incidents x2, Russia x22. (All submarines)

Can’t find any recorded incidents on current (in service) generation surface or submarine propulsion units.

Nuclear Powered Merchant Ships x13, only one now in service.

Nuclear Powered Military. France, US and UK have some 150 Nuclear powered submarines in operation. The US has at least 100 nuclear powered vessels in service.

US has x11 Nuclear powered Carriers in service. France x1, Russia ? Unknown number of Kirov Class still in service.

Taking all Power Generation, Propulsion and Research reactors into account, there are around 1,000 reactors in service currently, plenty to go wrong? but more about “hype”.

As for Germany, it has the most vocal anti-nuclear power lobby in the world. All x19 plants were due for decommissioning by 2020 until July 2010, when Merkel surprisingly announced extension programs until 2035. Five of these are older types and were immediate targets anyway. A moratorium of three months was announced this week on the extension program only. My guess is nuclear will grow as the current renewables, wind and solar are only viable with subsidies and tariffs.
Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:53:16 AM
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All interesting posts, spin doc it seems much as we expected.
I grant Germany appears to be taking the safe route but its opposition is saying it is a bluff to extend Nuclear powers life.
In the back ground is ABC news 24, been wrong about that, it is news 4 hours news repeatedly repeated.
But for the third time it is one on one.
Nuclear expert says the extra release in OTHER areas is less than moving to live on a mountain top.
So while the whole series of events is tragic, continues to be a threat, it hardly seems a melt down.
OUG yes I tend to say threads are out of puff, but often get a surprise myself, this is not my thread it is as much yours or any one.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 19 March 2011 5:04:52 PM
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quite right belly
here is one you wont hear from the zionist media controllers

Stuxnet found in Japan in October - Is Fukushima an unintended consequence of Israel's hacker attack against Bushehr?

According to the security company, the virus is designed to target a German-made program often used in systems managing water, gas and oil pipelines. The program is used at public utilities around the world, including in Japan.
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T101004003493.htm

Here is a nightmare scenario for you.

1. Israel and the US create Stuxnet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12633240
2. Stuxnet is deployed to wreck Iran's nuclear power station.
http://bigpeace.com/jxenakis/2010/09/27/stuxnet-computer-virus-attacks-irans-bushehr-nuclear-plant/
3. But Stuxnet escapes from its intended target and spreads across Asia!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.f6fba55ad8f5e329c0c25bad9aa7b8d3.651

4. As the above article documents, Stuxnet was in Japan last October, presumably still spreading and intended to wreck nuclear power plants.

5. Stuxnet targets the Siemens controller
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.html?pagewanted=all
6. Fukushima uses the Seimens controllers Stuxnet was designed interfere with!
http://thirteenthmonkey.blogspot.com/2011/03/worm-in-works.html

So now the difficulty the Fukushima nuclear plant operators faced in recovering control over their runaway reactors takes on a darker significance.

Remember that the first problem following the quake was that the automated shutdown systems failed to operate at some of the reactors, because pumps failed and valves would not open even while running on batteries; the very sorts of mischief Stuxnet supposedly was designed to cause at Iran's power station.

http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/look-out-for-the-nuclear-bomb-coming-with-your-electric-bill/

http://uruknet.com/?p=m75976&hd=&size=1&l=e
http://www.ejpress.org/article/49705
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/03/amount-of-radioactive-fuel-at-fukushima.html

http://www.forward.com/articles/136024/
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/03/radiation-worse-than-expected.html

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/the-enemies-of-zion-are-the-jews-themselves/

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/waiting-for-the-peace-train-in-gaza/
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 20 March 2011 6:38:52 AM
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Total information blackout on Fukushima Unit 4 reactor raises serious questions about truth of situation
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23791

Clearly everything is not fine, especially for the Japanese people. If you have been paying attention to the many other reports here on NaturalNews about the situation, you will quickly recognize the many serious factors at play and their numerous inconsistencies.

There is an extremely dangerous plutonium-based fuel in one of the damaged reactors that may have already been, or eventually could be, released into the environment
http://www.naturalnews.com/031736_p

an allegedly empty cooling pool exposing thousands of highly volatile fueling rods to the open air
http://www.naturalnews.com/031734_n

and a US president telling everyone to chill out and do nothing other than watch television for further information http://www.naturalnews.com/031735_O


It is very simple as to why there has been such an enormous effort to downplay the potential for danger from these compromised and damaged reactors:

*they were designed by General Electric.
[the biggest lobby group for subsidised 'alternatives'
its win win for them
regardless of who else looses

The potential of liabilities, lawsuits, etc., is very great, and could literally closed down the nuclear power business not only in this country, but also in the world at large.

There are 23 reactors designed by GE here in the US,
which are built upon the same flawed design.

but dont worry
govt has allready 'bailed them out'

indemnified them

Look out for the nuclear bomb coming with your electric bill
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/look-out-for-the-nuclear-bomb-coming-with-your-electric-bill/

Obama’s provision of $54 billion in loan guarantees to the nuclear industry will cost Americans much more than the probable 50% default rate that the Congressional Budget Office anticipates.

While the federal government will guarantee the profits of investors, rate payers will suffer the inevitable rate hikes.

GRAND THEFT FRAUD - Anonymous
Indicates Widespread Insurance Fraud;
Bank Of America Owns A Force Placed Insurance Subsidiary;
Other Banks Earn Commissions

http://dailybail.com/home/attention-eric-holder-anonymous-indicates-widespread-insuran.html

http://profilesinevil.blogspot.com/2011/03/sunbathing-on-sunless-riviera-of-devils.html

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/monstersamongus.php
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/wwiii-one-nation-at-time.html

PROPAGANDA ALERT - Japan nuclear crisis should not carry weight in atomic energy debate, George Monbiot
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/mar/16/japan-nuclear-crisis-atomic-energy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/how-your-taxpayer-dollars_b_836574.html?ref=email_share
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 20 March 2011 6:54:14 AM
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neither julier
nor julying speaks for me

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!

re the wiki question
extracted from
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/03/18/gordon-duff-resurrecting-the-wiki-corpse/

AUSTRALIAN PM GILLARD
IN “SCRIPTED LOVEFEST” WITH ASSANGE

Our own analysis tied Assange to Israel and showed him to be working hand in hand with the New York Times, the Guardian and other papers, hiding a Israeli agenda of war on Iraq, war by “others,” behind sham whistleblowing.

Wikileaks was and is chickenfeed, always ready to pat itself on the back and take credit for everything from the revolution in Tunisia to stopping the nuclear meltdown in Japan. Wikileaks has only one real purpose, to bring about a war with Iran. As a sideline, it waits for instructions, evidence points to Tel Aviv though Wikileaks may serve any master with enough money, as long as Israel gets their cut.

If any person understands Wikileaks and Australia, it is director Tony Lawson. Julia Gillard is a “man with a mission,” that’s for sure. Nothing in that mission involves anything good for Australia, that’s for sure also;

"Alone among all of Earth's life forms,
humans alone perceive the absolute inevitability of their own mortality.

For thousands of years, con artists have exploited that fear of the inevitable end of life, offering for sale various magical escapes from the grave, and all the acolytes have to do is surrender their money, their obedience, and their sanity." -- Michael Rivero
Posted by one under god, Monday, 21 March 2011 6:59:20 AM
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