How judgmental you are. I bet you do not personally know a single human that practices Islam. We are entitled in life to choose what we want to believe and practice, not because others think it's wrong, but because we think it is right. It is a personal choice, for whatever reason.

It is so obvious you hold hatred against them for whatever reason. Feel sorry for your ignorance.. They are humans, we are humans.. even the less superior species on this planet do not treat their kind this way. But, that is the reality we live in.

What is your believes? I suppose it tells you that you are more superior then anyone else, and that you have the right to not accept people as they come. If you were a parent.. just imagine you had a child that choose to practice Islam. You are so selfish.. so sad to see...

Y'know Boaz, sometimes I think you are channelling Arjay, with all these "left-wing conspiracy" issues you keep waving in front of us.

>>Here is a classic example of 'Labor-think' (=progressive think) from my favorite whipping mob the Gore Family.<<

And this is relevant to a discussion on the EDL, how?

I suppose that it does give further insight into your affinity with their neo-Fascist veneer...

>>All the groups eXCEPT the white one are asserting their own cultural/racial identity<<

But this isn't all about you, you know. It is about bigotry, racially-based hatred and the use of such as an excuse for gratuitous violence.

Since you haven't been to a soccer game in the UK, you naturally have some difficulty in understanding how sections of the crowd are there purely for the fight. Whether the fight is instigated by the colour of the opposition's shirt, or merely "you lookin' at me pal" confrontation, it is all the same to them. They align themselves with their crew, and take pride in the violence they instigate.

This also means that you cannot understand how these people are the natural ingredient of any anti-(Muslim/black/asian/Irish) belligerance.

It has as much to do with them being "a barometer of social problems which the government has far too long ignored or even trampled on" as the slice of lime in my gin and tonic. Sure, you can see it as it floats on the top next to the ice cubes. But it is just as much at home in the lime pickle on my lamb jalfrezi.

EDL is about incoherent, pointless violence. They care nothing for politics of any kind, being far more interested in vast quantities of warm english beer.

Dear Al,

I finally got round to viewing the video - and I have to agree with Pericles' observation that: "...hey ho, here we go, here's yet another group of soccer hooligans wrapping themselves in the flag of St George as an excuse to pick a fight with Muslims".

I get your point about the dog, but it's really only a side issue...the "EDL" looked like a bunch of thugs out for a bit of biff

HI dear Poirot....glad you took the time to view it.

My primary point was simply how that portion of the vid was reported in the various media.

If you look further at all reporting of the EDL, you will find that the same bias applies. The outcome is exactly the impression you conveyed in...

".hey ho, here we go, here's yet another group of soccer hooligans wrapping themselves in the flag of St George as an excuse to pick a fight with Muslims"

If you look closely at the history of the EDL you would see there is WAYYYYY more to it than that simplisitic writing off by your good self.
Soccer hooligans have been around as long as Soccer. They havn't been out "Picking on minorities" they've been fighting other clubs and/or the police. (Pericles might correct me there but that's how the news reports)

The began after the disgraceful attack on Brit soldiers returning from O'seas at Luton... look it up please.

A key ingredient in that 'blood spurts out your eyes' level of police complicity and incompetance was their protection of the Muslim thugs/radicals rather than ARRESTING them for public order offenses.
That was the straw which broke the camels back. (if you want another straw..they DID arrest white brits simply for SHOUTING abuse at these scum)

JINNY and PERICLES have both demonstrated a serious mental flaw as follows:

Proxy outlines how degraded is the Islamic view of non Muslims (down with faeces etc)
Jinny then calls Proxy 'ignorant and full of hate' :)

Jinny.. u seem new here please don't take offence..I'm simply pointing out the irrational nature of what you said.
If I said "Jinny..you and your kind are dog sh@t"...err happy ?

Pericles says: "It is about bigotry, racially-based hatred and the use of such as an excuse for gratuitous violence."

Hmmm those 'genes' are hard at work P :)

Dear Al,

It was about gratuitous violence in my view.

Young men collectively gathering in self-transcendent mode are a very dangerous entity. If the EDL arranged to bus these men to this particular location, it was for the purpose of confrontation. Why then should they complain when things get out of hand and arrests are made...what would they or you expect to happen under such provocative circumstances?

Still scratching my head over Pericles weird comment "It's about racial hatred".....wanders off with a sullen look...to....

POIROT... back to you :)

Taking this issue a bit further afield and hooking into the US elections happening right now...let's examine something there.

OBAMA "We have saved or created 3million jobs with the stimulus"

REALITY.

SAVED: The public service unions which have manipulated grossly inflated Pensions to the point of unsustainablity, where states are actually bankrupt... have had those greed based, socialist inspired, union backed unsustainable pensions BAILED OUT saving the bankruptcy and the jobs of numerous firefighters/police etc who would otherwise have had to be sacked.

CREATED: "Green Jobs" are the 'jobs' mainly referred to and they come from socialist orchestrated pandering to unemployed racial minorities to go around doing insulation refurbishment etc Oh my....

Each time I hear Obama or some Demobrat speak about created or saved jobs .. my head explodes.

IT'S ALL ABOUT CAPITALISM .. but some of those mega capitalists simply choose the racial minorities and working classes as their political power base from which to secure government contracts and generally expand their business's with political manipulation.

JUSSSST imagine... how much you would NEED political help with a company like "Gore-Tex". I notice they also have manufacturing facilities in China...hmmmmmm..
DemoBrat Chris Coons candidate for Senate,Delaware (married to the daughter of the CEO)has a lot to answer for.