lol...4..a-thiest1<<intelligent..lol..academics..who have studied science,..paleontology..>>..lol...paleontology..

The study of the forms of life..existing in prehistoric or geologic times,...
as represented by the fossils of long/extict plants,..animals,.lol..[plaster casts]

<<&..the works of Darwin,>>>
...WHO WROTE EVOLUTION of SPECIES...not evolution of genus...
..please be less ignorant

<<all accessible & logical facts>>>
..about micro evolution of species/...WITHIN THEIR GENUS

the new number one..lol..athiest...QUOTE..<<,..given the fact..>>
lol...please present this fact

<<..that science is currently using genetics,..to not only..create life>>.
lol..yes present this fact

<<but also alter it..>>..it means life...right..
like using a virus to make terminator seed,...lol

<<through genetic modification>>
mate modification...[with a virus]..isnt science,

<<how does that sit with your religious beliefs?>>
..couldnt care less...see the joke...you and yer lol...peers..
cant prove a single thing..you prattle on about

its like wind..or..a mindless drone..from a drongo

<<I,..unlike other..pretentious people,i..don't expect you..to divulge..your personal belief's>>..

with the key word...pretentious athiest people..
..lets get back..to my UNREPLIED QUESTIONS...LOL

science cant make life...lol..get it..

PREVIOUS point..
*your brain-DEAD..get it..but the brain...is still there*..get it?

hypocrisy.

LOL..<<<There's plenty of evidence..for all this stuff..in science.>>>..

ok present it...LOL...& therefor..we will keep asking you...to present..your science

LETS HEAR THE PROOF...lol..your science..lol

what is the first life/living,...
NAME IT...NAME THE FIRST LIFE

...present even a single report
of....genus evolving into new genus

..present your genus evolution..lol..tree

...make your own life..
without using gods t/cell

..make a simple cell/membraNE,..
the first step to making life..

simply speaking..your mindless/athiest/frauds
are..playing redirection...BECAUSE..YOU GOT NO SCIENCE

you claim informed/..lol../..disbelief...
but ya theory...has no science/...no evidence

mindless athiest..will jump on..the claim of..'science'...LOL....
but its only...FAITH,..in faux-science/..theory

.
you dont present..any science

its self evident..
you got none..

..<<..nothing will change..your mindless/faith..as it is blind faith>>>...
lol..

blind faith..YET..no fact/...relitive to the main claim....
ie...[evolving of genus/=..ie..evolution

your athiestic../science free..stance..is just simple/mindedness/faith..
in athiestic/hypocrisy...
in action/word/writing...

yet still..a fact-free/zone

*!*..THE BRAIN..IS STILL IN THE..brain/dead..BODY...*!*...!.!.!.!..

get it...lol*..its not thinking much**...BY ITSELF**..*now*..is it?

..this/BRAIN-DEAD..<<..you,..what defines you,..IS gone>>..is gone...

gone where?...lol

you got a pulse/..and a brain..
but no mind..LOL..BRAIN/DEAD..yet still a living brain[a-thiest/logic]

AND NOT A SCRAP OF..GENUS/EVOLUTION-SCIENCE...
FROM A KNOWN FIRST LIving/that..IS CLAIMED..to have changed GENUS..lol

REPLY MY QUESTIONS

Some interesting sites:

- http://www.earthlife.net/prokaryotes/welcome.html

- http://www.ga.gov.au/image_cache/GA10096.pdf

- http://www.oz-greetings.com.au/geology/article/44/-b-STROMATOLITES--b----Photosynthesis

“science cant make life...” = OUG

- Yet!

The above noted, most of all I am interested in OUG answering a simple question:

- Was Zeus (God) justified in punishing the Titans?

Also,

OUG, you replied, but did not answer my question, as to why did God create Even from Adam’s rib and not a single cell.

Lastly, OUG,

Can you please provide a dot .edu or dot .gov site supporting Creationism?

Oops, my mistake, woot

>>Where is Gee Suss or myself stating this is the stance of the AFA?<<

Wasn't it you who wrote this earlier...

>>We are a large, voting group with ethics based on us intrinsically being social creatures. We use reason and logic to come to general consensus on issues, and have a voice in the AFA to put it forward.<<

...oh, so it was. And this one, too.

>>We are a community, a growing and large community made up of many, with vocal groups such as the AFA just part of that.<<

I thought maybe that this was just another example of your faction being "vocal".

And far from "twisting" anything, I have simply replayed Gee Suss' exact words back to him, to establish the facts of the matter. Which are, of course, highly material and very relevant. Forcing teachers to use science class to spread religious fantasy is non-trivial, I would have thought.

But using a statement that was reported by someone else, without checking the source, is simply spreading rumours. Tittle-tattle. Gossip. Scuttlebutt.

Then playing the innocent, saying "hey, it was someone else who said it, not me" is disingenuous.

Now you seem to be choosing, retrospectively, which of the statements you make are representative of AFA, and which are not.

Not a good look for your organization, is it?.

Too slippery, by half.

posting..a fraud link..takes two seconds
rebutting it takes pages...so here..is my first page

wow...throw some science/holy sacrement,.holy/science water]...on the thiest...lol

so the de/liver injects..his links...
not stating what science/link..
replies which question..

[cause he's..got no idea..[no mind]...lol

from the woot/toot-OH/livers..link<<Prokaryotes are..the original inhabitants..of this planet>>

cool..someone said..[what a previous athiest/respondent..
ALLREADY/REBUTTED
...when i offered it...LOL

<<the first successful living..organisms may>>>..note may...not did
they MAY...lol..[how scientific..lol..MAY..<<have looked..very like..some of today's Archaea>>>

SO what is being said>>>THEY HAVNT EVOLVED...IN<<<somewhere between 3 or 4 billion years>>
lol very scientific
BUT VALIDATING...NOT EVOLUTION...ie genus stasis

SO TELL ME..HAS SCIENCE MADE ONE...ie replicated
HAS IT..EVOLVED...FROM ITS GENUS..into ANY OTHER GENUS

<<Both Archaea and Bacteria evolved.>>>..EVOLVED FROM WHAT FIRST LIFE
im seeing a complex...LIVING SYSTEM..that simply speaking..didnt evolve itself..lol

but lets let..the link rebut..itself

<<Prokaryotes come in two sorts,..Archaea and Bacteria>>which your first life

so prok-ar-yotes..are inclusive of..not only...whole genus lines...
but higher/taxa...lol
..even..[furthers AWAY FROM SPECIES/levels
...lol...ya suggestable dolts...

ALL THE WAY UP TO KINGDOMS..<<Both of these..are a Kingdoms of life...in their own rite>>>..lol ya drongo.

<<This is because..they are as different,..if not...more different,..from each other,>>lol

MORE DIFFERENT<<..than they are from protozoans,..fungi,..plants and us..>>>lol<<This means..they have been around twice as long..as the Protozoans..and more than 3 times as long as animals>>>

but clearly..wernt...lol..the first life

LOOK AT THEIR DUMB PICTURE
see lol...a cell membrane...HOW DID IT..FORM.

SEE THE DNA...how did it form

see how tiny..they write the names..
of the MANY ingrediant/parts...[im seeing a watchmaker...lol

SEE that the picture..of a single cell...seemingly so authoritiuve..
but why..so small the words..making up the parts..lol

ok..so make the componant parts..
[you lot....can NEVER REPLICATE...the whole
and only rna..[that decends from dna...somehow assembled by chance...lol[how scientific..lol

somehow got put..into a cell...somehow has the means,to replicate..reproduce/live and..

...and stay THE SAME ...for 3 to 4 billions of years...lol

you gave an excellent egsample...of how YOU LOT..GET CONNED...again

so lets sort this..with my mind...and your dead brains...
we shall evolve.....one of ya links..at a time

so in ya own words
WHAT LINK SAYS WHAT/WHERE AT THE LINK

REPLY MY QUESTIONS

The type of speciation events mentioned that are the scientific definition of "macroevolution" is exactly what evolutionary theory would predict to be observed in a human lifetime. Anything more dramatic than that (your expectation of a move into a new 'genus', which is stupid considering it is just a naming convention) would actually call the theory into question OUG. I have explained that genus is a label for common ancestory levels in the branching tree, you have chosen this taxonomic description of genus to state evolution stops at that, but have provided no evidence as to what stops speciation events as shown in the multitudes of evidence that evolution has occured with common descent(one eg ref: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ).

Your argument is just a straw man. Rather than the definition of genus based on evolutionairy history of species, you are trying to define it as where evolution occurs, which is in fact at the species level. I have explained this, but you just create a straw man argument to refute.

Science never claimed it knows yet how life actually started on the planet, though there are a few ways in abiogenesis that it could have, yet you crow for this evidence and state because science does not claim to provide it, your claims must be true. This is total hypocrisy in that you are making a claim with absolutely no evidence to back it up. You are claiming it, not science, so produce your evidence OUG.

Show us your evidence that first life started via your god, or otherwise again your just making a straw man and not holding yourself to the same standards you are asking of science. In fact, science has more evidence that you have provided for your claims. You claim speciation is not able to go beyond the genus level, as shown in the scientific evidence that it has occured, yet provide no evidence for what would stop it from doing so. total hypocrisy on your part, and a total straw man argument.

What do you call a fly that flies into OUG's ear?

Answer, Space invader

Thanks
From Dave