OUG, there's no need to be like that. If it wasn't for the hard work of intelligent academics like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris etc. who have studied science, paleontology & the works of Darwin, all accessible & logical facts I might add & not like a fictitious bible, the rhetoric of others on this site wold be as useful as a wood screw in a pile of termite dust. Pretty much like your bible mouth in fact.

I don't know why you find it so difficult to own up to an "exaggeration", Gee Suss. You did it before, when you admitted you had made up the bit about creationism being taught as science.

So why not just come clean, and confess that you did the same with the "science teachers in public schools in Qld were being forced to teach Intelligent Design" schtick?

Your entire evidence comes down to a sentence from a "log of claims" by the "newly-formed Australian Secular Lobby":

"Education Queensland staff can, and do, evangelise within a formal classroom environment. This includes creationism and ‘intelligent design’ being offered as an alternative to the theory of evolution in science classes."

Apart from the fact that there is no supporting evidence for this either, where does it say that they are "being forced to teach Intelligent Design"?

Now, I suppose, you will accuse me of splitting hairs, and explain that taking hearsay evidence at face value is a perfectly acceptable approach.

Which puts you pretty much in the same boat as oug, evidence-wise.

Pericles, I'd just like to thank you for adding some intelligent conversation to this forum. It's high time the some others took a breath & gained some formal education.

As Gee Suss is pointing out Pericles, and as I did as well, this was posted out to many people and Gee Suss was just reposting it, word for word.

Here's one reference going back to late April the wording is exactly the same

http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/forums/archive/index.php/t-874.html

Gee Suss did already state he reposted information. You are just flogging a dead horse as he stated and you were explicitly pointed you at the people and groups involved. Go take up your little games trying to score ego points with them.

get over it, not sure what medals you are after. go take up the issue with the ASL re the current stuff going on between it and QLD education on this issue. The more pressure on the government to actually respond to the issue the better.

So, now it is "Dan Dare's" fault for misleading you all.

http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/forums/archive/index.php/t-874.html

You guys are priceless.

You don't take the slightest responsibility for checking the truth of what you post, do you?

But let's see for a moment where this takes you.

You write stuff here on OLO, that originated from a document supposedly written by someone relevant, simply because you choose to believe it to be true.

And anyone who points out that it is pure hearsay, and that it shouldn't be believed, is "flogging a dead horse".

Now, this is probably going to go right over your head, because you clearly have that item safely stored out of sight somewhere, but I'll try it anyway.

Religious folk also write stuff here on OLO, that originated from a document supposedly written by someone relevant, simply because they choose to believe it to be true.

And anyone who points out that it is pure hearsay, and that it shouldn't be believed, is talking rubbish.

At a wild guess, I'd say your organization has a great deal to learn about setting, and upholding, standards of truth.

It wouldn't be a problem, except that you claim to do it all on behalf of atheists.

Oh here we go again, Pericles is going to try and all associate it back to having a go at the AFA.

Gee Suss in no uncertain terms stated he had no evidence and retracted his comments, he also then went on to state the second bit was from the ASL, and he reposted it.

He is not claiming anything like a supernatural being that controls the whole of everything outside of space and time, he is not claiming anything that is out of all that we know and understand to exist, he was referencing real submissions by real people. Your analogy is just you trying to make wild associations to further your judgments from previous in the thread.

Where is Gee Suss or myself stating this is the stance of the AFA? Come on, hold yourself to the same high and mighty standards you do of others before judging a whole body of thousands of people just because you are twisting what some people who are members of it have said about a post out from the ASL.

Your flogging a dead horse as nothing you are saying is not self evident and already stated. Gee Suss stated it, I stated it, indeed I gave links confirming that it had 'done the rounds'. Now your trying to smear the AFA because it was also posted on their boards, and I used it as evidence it had been posted around.

But here you are, trying to state it's all just like religion yet again, and on top of that trying to associate it to the AFA due to it being also posted on their OPEN forum.

flogging a dead horse.