OUG I gave an example of evidence the frontal lobes define personality, there are masses of corroborative evidence in cases of brain damage that are falsifiable, testable etc. I'm not about to go thru evidence you can find in any basic searches on the topic on the web, or in science books etc etc just because you are trying to wear out by repetition.

Where is your evidence that a 'soul' exists?

BTW when you are brain dead, you are gone. You can have your heart and organs and body kept alive, but you, what defines you, are gone. This is because the brain does all the thinking OUG.

This discussion is ridiculous, creatards like yourselfs whole 'evidence' lies in trying to say 'you don't have ALL the evidence yet', while they themselves have none. hypocrisy.

There's plenty of evidence for all this stuff in science OUG, it's a waste of time trying to show you and educate you, as your a creatard, nothing will change your faith as it is blind faith. You have nothing but a leap to conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever, yet ironically turn around to science and state 'you need MORE evidence than the vast amount you have to date, to state it as truth.'

Hypocrite basically. Until you hold the same level of requirement of evidence that you do of science for 'truth', your stance is just hypocrisy in action.

I can only assume that this is your way of apologizing for writing rubbish, Gee Suss.

>>it WAS reported, and the reply directly to this was what I posted, that basically schools and teachers so long as they covered the curriculum, were able to teach as they saw fit in regard their community etc. That was a direct question regarding creationism being taught in science classes in QLD, you are ignoring the context of the whole contact<<

You stated:

>>Creationism... should not be in our schools and definitely not taught as science, as is being done.<<

I questioned this statement.

You then came back with:

>>I retract my statement. I cannot provide evidence at this point in time, so my comments are unfounded<<

But added:

>>Hugh Wilson from the Australian Secular Lobby discovered that some science teachers in public schools in Qld were being forced to teach Intelligent Design around April this year<<

It now appears that you cannot back this up either.

Can you?

The reference you provide makes no mention of Intelligent Design being included in the curriculum, or being taught in schools, nor of science teachers being forced teach it.

>>It was a direct question, from the Secular lobby, and that was a reply<<

What was the direct question?

"Do you know that science teachers in Public Schools are being forced to teach ID?"

That kind of direct question?

>>I'm not about to engage in it with little old you on some 350 word forum on the internet just to appease your need to go on the attack.<<

Of course not. You'd rather play along with oug's word games than be honest, and admit that you invented stuff.

Twice.

huh? your flogging a dead horse Pericles.

I stated what the secular society stated. I stated the actual submission, who did it, and who answered, plus the contents of the reply. What more 'evidence' do you want me to give of it? Post the actual documents to you?

"Hugh Wilson from the Australian Secular Lobby discovered that some science teachers in public schools in Qld were being forced to teach Intelligent Design around April this year"

This is exactly what the Secular lobby of Australia states on public record. I don't see why you are flogging it with me, go pester them telling them they are lying.

As stated, this was an announcement from the Secular Lobby of Australia, who refused to cover the points raised in another response to discussions regarding it, I don't need to flog it with little old you, nor care less if you want to continue this wank. What a waste of time.

All you do Pericles is pick one thing out and flog it to death, twisting what people have said to do so.

Indeed this is on public record with the QLD minister for education and lodged on May 9th 2009 :

http://www.australiansecularlobby.com/reports.html

"What’s more, without the constraints of the removed ‘chapter 5’ clause, Education Queensland staff can, and do, evangelise within a formal classroom environment. This includes creationism and ‘intelligent design’ being offered as an alternative to the theory of evolution in science classes."

Now go hassle them oh flogger of dead horses.

As stated, this was an announcement from the Secular Lobby of Australia, who refused to cover the points raised in another response to discussions regarding it,

should be :

As stated, this was an announcement from the Secular Lobby of Australia and raised with the QLD minister of education, who refused to cover the points raised in another response to discussions regarding it,

OUG, given the fact that science is currently using genetics, to not only create life but also alter it through genetic modification, how does that sit with your religious beliefs? I, unlike other pretentious people, don't expect you to divulge your personal belief's & therefor will not keep asking you to but I am interested in your opinion.

GEE?HOWSUSS...ohliver/davidians...cant reply my questions..
thus keep asking thier own/..lol.../it aint half obvious..

YA..all..DONT KNOW

<<You can have..your heart and organs..and body kept alive>>>

LOL...but realise..your making my point...lol

yes the spirit..has left the building....!.!.!
contained in your soul/....which is the spirits..'born-again'..body

<<<This is because the brain..does all the thinking OUG..>>>lol..

..but ahhhh...loll....gee..suss..liverd/davidian'ATHIEST'S

*.*THE BRAIN..IS STILL IN THE..brain/dead..BODY*.*...!.!.!.!..

get it...lol*

..its not thinking much*.*...l
ol..BY ITSELF*.*,..*now*..is it?

..this/BRAINDEAD..<<..you,..what defines you,..IS gone>>..
is gone?...

gone where?...lol

you got a pulse/and a brain..
but no mind..LOL..

thats ya spirit/gone...get it?

ya soul..is the astral body..
that houses your spirit...gone..IN/to..THE NEXT REALM

eg..<<<Where is your evidence that a..'soul'..exists?>>
..simply the soul..is that auto..[of auto/natureal/response...the logic..in that naturally/logical/LIVING..

the soul..is all them natrual/process..running your body/logic/life

<<when you are brain dead,..you are gone>>
..oh you poor dear boy...so little fact...so much fiction..

science cant make life...lol..get it..

..*your brain is DEAD..get it..
but the brain...is still there*...

get it?

<<This discussion is ridiculous..>>>..
ah/ha...this is from your mind-numb/..YET..living brain?
..or your fact/..free-ahhhrsOUL

..evo-retards..claim..'you don't have..ALL the evidence yet',..
while of your-selves..individually..all of you...lol....have none..at all.

hypocrisy.

LOL..<<<There's plenty of evidence..for all this stuff..in science.>>>..

ok present it...LOL

LETS HEAR THE PROOF...lol..your science..lol

what is the first life,...NAME IT
...NAME THE FIRST LIFE

...present even a single report
of genus evolving into new genus

..present your genus evolution tree

...make your own life..
without using gods t/cell

..make a simple cell/membraNE,..
the first step to making life..

simply speaking..your mindless/athiest/frauds

are..playing redirection...BECAUSE..YOU GOT NO SCIENCE

you claim informed/..lol../..disbelief...
but ya theory...has no science/...no evidence

mindless athiest..will jump on..the claim of..'science'...LOL....
but its only...FAITH,..in faux-science/..theory

saying constantly...<<it's a waste of time,..trying to show you..and educate you>>
...conveniantly...thus..
you dont present..any science

its self evident..
you got none..

..<<..nothing will change..your mindless/faith..as it is blind faith>>>...
lol..

blind faith..YET..no fact/...relitive to the main claim....
ie...[evolving of genus/=..ie..evolution

your athiestic../science free..stance..is just simple/mindedness/faith..
in athiestic/hypocrisy...
in action/word/writing...

yet still..a fact-free/zone