sus-gee..<<..There's no evidence>>..there is more..than you lot have got..for first..life/living...and than/you..lot/got..for evolution of genus

<<Christians/..animals have no soul,>>..For that which befalleth the sons of men...befalleth beasts;...All go unto one place;..all are of the dust,..and all turn to dust again."..(Ecclesiastes 3:18-20 KJV)

"spirit"..simply means breath,..or to exhale..

<<What/..does a persons..'spirit'..do?..>>..all the electickal stuff docters monitor/..thought/movement/mind/reason..love/hate..all that natural/nature...god..does via auto-reflex

<<Personality/controlled by the frontal lobes of the brain>>so?.

When the brain stops functioning,..your BODY..isnt allways dead....lol..just watch athiests/lol..brain-dead

<<Everything that defines you..as you,..is in the brain>>..present your evidence

<<..The brain defines..'who'..you are,..what you do>>..the left/brain controls the right side of your body,..right/controls left-side,..please narrow down..scientificlly/precicly..what your saying controls what

re the soul..<<there was....21g was lost..when humans died>>>..yeah thanks for the correction..you would think..someone would/have..dared repeat..the science

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=MEDA%2CMEDA%3A2008-36%2CMEDA%3Aen-GB&q=weight+of+the++soul&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1


<<What are you talking about..the egg is dead>>?..When does human life begin?..“At conception,”..states Professor W. Bowes.of the University of Colorado..

..Professor M. Matthews-Roth..of Harvard writes: ..“It is scientifically correct to say..that individual human life..begins at conception.”

..Dr. Mary Calderon..of Planned Parenthood..in the 1960s, wrote:..“Fertilization has taken place;/..a baby has been conceived.”

Everything that defines..a person physically..is present ONLY..at fertilization..an unfertilised egg dies..because its not fully living[only half a cell]..Daughter cell.. produced by meiosis..are haploid (n),,..meaning that they contain..half the number of chromosomes..as the parent cell
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=MEDA%2CMEDA%3A2008-36%2CMEDA%3Aen-GB&q=meiosis+and+mitosis&aq=1&oq=+meiosis&aqi=g7g-s1g2

http://www.all-creatures.org/murti/pub-thelib-01.html

Definitions of alive..on the Web:..possessing life;..animated:..having life..or vigor..or spirit..alert:..mentally perceptive..and responsive;.."an alert mind";.."alert to the problems";.."alive to what is going on";

<<Stop just posting definitions..of what words mean..which is just silly,>>...clearly you dont like..what the words your using..really mean...lol..

<<Life..is one continuous chain>>.that is correct...but science claims it had a beginning...ie lol a life from ..lol..non life..lol

please present your first life..even you see the absurdity..lol...quote...<<Life..is one continuous chain>>.lol.

oug,

When and if science does create life, how will that fit with your ‘theology’?

Sensible short answer would be nice but not expected.

David

david the simple point is they cant..havnt and wont

when they claim they have...it will not prove what they say it poves..nor validate what really happend...mate cant you see they cannot even make a simple cell membrane

they need empty an egsisting egg/cell..to make it create a clone...then there is the fact..they dont even know what they need to make...because they cant reveal this first life that...lol..evolved

the tree has no root..
no abiogensus

no evolution of genus...
[..please supply a..genus..*evolution tree

i will repeat my challange from
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=9564#154420

please reply..the 3 questions...lol..
with your..knowledge/science

..if you really got..a science..
give me...a genus/evolution-tree...[not species]

2.give me the name..of that first living thing..

..that evolved...as even science..dare not go this far...simplify...was this first...'life'...in salt water or fresh

3.validate a SINGLE EGSAMPLE...OF GENUS EVOLVING INTO OTHER GENUS...again..this is an impossability...

as no such event..has ever been reported/..nor observed..

it's concept..[evolution..is thus revealed illusion/theory..not knowledge...not science

ANSWER
..THE QUESTION..using science..

you claim science..please reply..the 3 questions...lol..with your..knowledge/science

..if you really got..a science..give me...a genus/evolution-tree...[not species]

2.give me the name of that first living thing that evolved...as even science dare not go this far...simplify...was this first...'life'...in salt water or fresh

3.validate a SINGLE EGSAMPLE...OF GENUS EVOLVING INTO OTHER GENUS...again..this is an impossability...as no such event..has ever been reported/..nor observed..

it's concept..[evolution..is thus revealed illusion/theory..not knowledge...not science

ANSWER..THE QUESTION..
..using science..REPLICATE

make ...just one like it...FIRST
if science..REPLICATE IT...LOL

if not science...dont pretend it is

look at the reply the spinner docterate gave
its so typical of those who have faith in faithlessness

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=9564#154475

who dont know why they believe..one belief system..over the other
yet claim science...belief...over religious..belief...lol

reply the questions
validate your disbelief
reveal the science

oug,

“When and if science does create life, how will that fit with your ‘theology’?”

No answer supplied, not even in the hypothetical. Demonstrates closed mind.

“Sensible short answer would be nice but not expected.”

And, therefore, I wasn’t disappointed. Demonstrates bluster is preferable to honesty.

David

You know that won't wash, don't you woot.

>>Doesn't look as tho Gee Suss is making the claim [some science teachers in public schools in Qld were being forced to teach Intelligent Design] at all Pericles, looks as tho he is referring to Hugh Wilson from the Secular Society who discovered this.<<

Let me refer you to my original challenge to Gee Suss.

"Is this true, Gee Suss? Or did you just make it up on the spot?

I asked that he support his assertion that creationism is being taught as science.

The best he can do is at the very least, third-hand.

>>Hugh Wilson from the Australian Secular Lobby discovered that some science teachers in public schools in Qld were being forced to teach Intelligent Design around April this year<<

First-hand would be from the science teachers themselves. Who are they? Who "forced" them, and how?

Second-hand is from Hugh Wilson reporting what the teachers said. Where did he do this? Is it documented anywhere? It would seem a fairly serious accusation.

Third-hand is nothing more than scuttlebutt, really.

So do tell - is there really some evidence of this? That a) Creationism is being taught as science in Queensland schools and b) that science teachers in public schools in Queensland are being forced to teach Intelligent Design?

Inventing stuff like this simply plays into the religionists hands - "see, they have to resort to fibs in order to discredit us".

So please, give us the ammunition. Not just a crayon drawing of a gun.

David (AFA) and OUG,

One small step for Science, one great problem for Creationists.

UTUBE - Artificial Sperm and Eggs Grown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ve7eZVh9Y&feature=youtube_gdata

Please notice the last comment. Science within a few decades might be able to create Eve from Adam, from a cell only. Much more economical than a rib. Maybe, we should send Yehwah to Stanford to catch-up on latest developments and update His skills. What about next century? Synthetic DNA?