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Stand by Your Man

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Foxy, loved the Gran story.

Reminds me of something overheard in a pub.

"When I go, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like Grandad.

Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car"
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:46:45 AM
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Foxy, Pericles

Hilarious.

Thank you
Posted by Fractelle, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:52:21 AM
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I'm glad that you all liked the Gran story.
My brother sent it to me ages ago and it still
makes me laugh.

Examinator - my mum's in her eighties - and
she finally gave up her car about a year ago,
I used to say the rosary every time I got into
her car (kidding - but only just)...

Pericles - great joke - Thank You!

Houellie - I'm not sure that she was coerced.
It's not always easy - especially in an abusive
relationship - to simply leave. The tendency
is to still believe that things will get better.
Who knows - she may have been coerced in reporting
him to the police in the first place - or perhaps
this was her way of seeking help ...
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 11:28:29 AM
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Foxy,

'I'm not sure that she was coerced.
It's not always easy - especially in an abusive
relationship - to simply leave. The tendency
is to still believe that things will get better.'

No it's not easy, and it's not always right to leave, especially when you've made a commitment to someone for better or for worse. Things got better for me and I'm sure they have for a lot of marriages over the years (though I never married in the end). People can be weak, have problems that can be fixed etc. It's a matter of patience, how much for how long you'll put up with, and your belief in the person as a whole against their current behaviour. Everyone is different, and I think this one strike and your out is a bit simple minded.

Yes some people never change, wont get help and will remain abusive, but that's not everybody.

With my experience the general passage of time allowed the chick to feel more secure in the relationship, and to trust I wasn't going to treat her the same as the other guys had treated her. That and getting her to lay off the drink and a bit of help in building her self esteem. I sent her off to the world as a better person, as she did me.

See, there's a good news story for ya. It's not all tragically chronic abuser is put up with by abusee until someone gets killed.

I still say the PR people would have gotten their claws in for some damage control in this case. But then I'm eternally more cynical than you Foxy. The truth is contained between Greg and his Missus, but unfortunately this case will be contorted and skewed by the feminists and other barrow pushers and the League's PR damage control men for their own ends.

We're just here to enjoy picking over the carcass.
Posted by Houellebecq, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 12:29:20 PM
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robert; 'I agree with most of what you have written'
piper; 'I would prefer a more non gender specific approach to any advertising campaign. '
cornflower; 'I second that, it was unacceptable stereotyping for a political agenda.'

Houel:”So if I'm anti-female, so are these posters. In fact, you seem to be in the minority.”

I never thought of it like that. But what we want is the minority acknowledged and helped alongside the majority and that it won’t happen if everyone doesn’t approach domestic violence in a non-gender specific way?

We’re all on the same page yeah? Exam’s seems to be as well? And in this thread we’re talking about some chick whose story has emerged about how her partner was helping not hurting her? We’re wondering what the media is doing and if we believe it?

Without facts and only with “carcass” evidence I don’t believe her, I think it complete kaka. As a female I dislike her kind intensely for it. Society isn’t helped by anyone standing by anyone else if they are guilty.

”You try desperately for affirmation you're different from the 'misogynist' posters. You just tread so carefully around those chicks.”

You so could have been talking about me right there.

“It's like you're terrified someone will put you in the same basket as antiseptic, and if someone says 'CJ isn't like that', it's almost as if you're shouting 'what about me! I'm not like that either! Please say I'm not like that!'.”

Well he’s not, gosh. Anti is in a class of his own while CJ is perfectly likeable. Examinator has a touch of schoolteacher about him while you…you… I so wish you were more predictable.

Quoting that was a nightmare, if I misquoted someone I apolgise.

Houel:“No it's not easy, and it's not always right to leave, especially when you've made a commitment to someone for better or for worse.”

Surely that particular vow is about things around the couple getting better or worse and not a member of the actual couple spazing out?
Posted by The Pied Piper, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 2:05:37 PM
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G'Day All,
When are we all going to stop all the talk & start to do something about the inequality both sides of the fence? If we are all fairdinkum then we would bind together & start to petition the governments to do something about it all.
It is just as easy to write to the governments as it is to post on this forum.
The legal system in this country is becoming a joke & a farce & becoming as inconsistent as the football refs.
Why do people think that for thousands of years there was separation af the sexes & roles for each gender to follow & a purpose for each gender?
If we want violece of all decriptions to stop then we have to first convince our governments to stop their violence against others. We can't have the governments blowing the guts out of women & kids just because another country doesn't agree with our lifestyle & then in our own country make the male gender sole blame of violence.
Thanks again for your time from Dave.
Posted by dwg, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 5:46:40 PM
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