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Turnbull Rudd Swan lets talk

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Reading the press again this morning, all of it.
The muted almost hidden story in the Sydney Tele is worth a read.
It seems to say Turnbull spoke to Grech after his evidence maybe before it, and that he and another read the false document in front of him.
Already my advice some who post here looks to be good advice, just a few have left the field of battle, this thread.
A more reputable retreat would have been better, see good government is my wish for my mob.
A smoke screen hangs over the true crime of this other side to government.
That crime is refusal to let an elected government govern.
And weak cowardly refusal to vote on climate change or even debate it.
Long after we are dust, in Turnbulls case he already is a past leader, others will know this opersition has not leader no policys and no direction.
Having lost an election they have not come to terms with they wallowed in the mud and are trying to look suprised it sticks only to them.
The Mark Latham thing is so true, I never ever thought I would see a man in the house who was of so little worth again.
I have and he is Latham like its Turnbullo
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 25 June 2009 5:34:52 AM
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The two things that Turnbull reacted to were:

1 The suspicious awarding of tenders to mates of labor MPs
2 Apparent documentry evidence of this in the form of a email.

The question that labor and treasury has not answered is:

What qualifications does a struggling car dealer have over and above the hundreds of other dealers to win gov tenders other than greasing the palm of the labor party?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 25 June 2009 8:50:21 AM
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I don't know if Ford Finance lends to other than Ford dealers, but
Mr Grant is a Kia dealer it is said.

A big noise has been made that Mr Grant got no finance which is not
surprising as the bill has not finished in parliament yet.
I think no one will want to talk to him now.

I would love to see the expanded headers on that email.
Not that the ip addresses would mean much to me.
I wonder if the person who sent it wore gloves and a face mask to hide DNA.
Too late now of course.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 25 June 2009 9:36:25 AM
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we all know the political game..is about arms-length/payback..to their true masters,..but the issue isnt here about someone getting rollsroyce service,..yet no money at the end of this..'special treatment;;..its about decieving parliment..

[about claiming and colluding into egsistance a FAKE email..that in the end seems very suss]

remember..the linkage..to a treasury/official..[to an email created in the treasury,..used by the opposition,..who only 2 days before had a..''friendly'..talk..with an official/..latter accorded the auther ship..[of a FAKE email]...in a mockup..printed as fact..by the decieved/decieving media

seems to/..line up a few people..to be in the know..[or think to know,..then..making up an email...to fit their PRESUMED knowledge...

turnbull clearly thought..he was accosting the auther..the supposed sender..of the fake/mockup..printed in the news-papers..3 days later

anyhow the facts..arnt supporting their proposition's..[but having their colusions exposed..they are trying franticly/to insist on their origonal flawed position..to avoid any discussion/about the FAKED email..as well as the long list of exposures..BASED ON A LIE

one would be blind-freddy..not to notice..the timming..[of the censure call]..by turnbull/in parliment yesterday..[the second the treasuror started to create the linkage..to the treasury dude..turnbull lept to his feet/and began the censure motion

[that was then read on air[three times]..while various votes to defeat it..took up the rest of question time...not once mentioning the timming of the censure..[or the treasurors words..preceeding it..

[plus..the treasuor/never got to finish his reply..that was sounding an interesting joining..of the knowable knowns..,known at this time..

to say the least the hindsite of events..reveal a suss-pitious picture[that must be exposed/lanced..as fast as possable..[not 6 mths away..after a possable double/disolution..

[the clear intent of the opposition..seeking to send off the issues/judgment day..to a better/future time..[by which time the only witness..may..conveniantly have commited some sacrificial act

the arrousal..of joe hockey stiche..rising in indignant fury..was also impossable to miss..[this clearly indicates/he is terified of something unknown..soon becomming known..[possably his linkages to the treasury dude]..but who knows..

one party wishes it all..to just go away to another day..[and maybe both/..we shall see wont we..but the weight of evidence..is a clear fraud..[with ill intente..has taken place..[the boil must be burst now]..this session/..today
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 25 June 2009 9:40:32 AM
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Dear Belly,

I fully agree with your last post.

The biggest crime the Libs have done is
to not let an elected Government govern -
blocking them every step of the way - and
this latest 'diversion,' of theirs is the
final straw. They and their chosen Leader
have lost all credibility.

The mud they
were slinging - has now stuck to them.

Turnbull as a Party Leader - has turned out to
be - not the eagle that people thought he was,
but a common sparrow.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 25 June 2009 10:40:49 AM
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Shadow Minster, once more please, tell me what government contract this man got.
Tellus Bazz and SM why Turnbull and one wast of air for the first time I know of in history barred a senate inquiry?
Why has Turnbull hinted he may not fully cooperate with the federal police inquiry?
What is wrong with a local business man going to a Rudd benefit in 2002?
Or buying an item there?
Should all business men be barred from getting help from local members?
To most, yes most voters understand now, the continuing insults from Turnbull,s gang is a smoke screen.
Conservatives alone fear an open inquiry, if one takes place they are lost.
Watch the polls, make up your minds but Turnbull could buy every raffle ticket and still not win.
He has to do far more than convince his blind followers its middle of the road ex Liberal voters who are sickened by his miss manegment of their once proud party.
Bring back Costello, steady your ship or select a deck chair on your titanic and await the coming ice berg, voters who can see and think past the lies mud and fear tactics.
Past the we have no intention of letting the govern one and only other policy.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 25 June 2009 5:20:18 PM
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