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Turnbull Rudd Swan lets talk

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Clearly we have yet another case where the media has put Rudd in their driving seat and gone along for a cruise. Swan should be hammered on this issue by the media but Rudd took the debate into the email topic and the media went with him, when they should have been pulling him back shouting "What about Swans heavy involvement with the treasury official and the ongoing emails that do exist". Hocky is right today to point out that Swan needs to provide all correspondence including the Queensland Car Dealer emails. And where are the police raiding Swans house and hard drive. Meanwhile the ABC just plugs along supporting Labor in the same way it did in Victoria when there was Joan Kerners corruption period. Not reporting the facts can take the ship down as it did there.
Posted by Media Man, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 2:50:43 PM
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I try to be fair, I am not member or supporter from LABOUR or LIBERAL party, in fact two days before I become member of Democrats.
1. Turnbull was wrong when asked Rudd or Swan to resign.
2. Turnbull had an email in his hands and according to the content of the email HE HAD TO BE HARD to Rudd and Swan.
3. BUT the email was face! Turnbull had to check first if the email was face or not and after to ask Rudd to resign. He did not check it.
4. Turnbull had a compination of facts that logicaly convinced him that the email was not face.
5. The email was face! A dark, dirty mind trapped the opposition leader and created a big problem to Turnbull, a problem with negative impact on his role as opposition Leader.
6. The role of the opposition leader is the cornerstone of our democratic system. The government MUST PROTECT THE INTEGRITY AND VALIDITY OF OPPOSITION LEADER.
7. The government must find the sender from the face email, who was, why he did it, and sent him to court for the problems he created to opposition leader and our democratic system.
8. If government will not find the sender of the face email or find him but do not sent him to court, then a BIG, DARK SHADOW WILL COVER THE GOVERNMENT, THEN MANY AUSTRALIANS WILL BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS INVOLVED WITH ONE OR THE OTHER WAY WITH THE FACE EMAIL.
9. It is for the benefits of the government, the opposition leader and our democratic system to find and sent to court the creator and sender of the face email.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 4:58:10 PM
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Sorry AS he said it was fact, bragged about it, shadow minister sounds much like Hocky.
Fact is we do not know who forged the e mail, we will know soon, we do not yet know why the fill in leader of the conservatives Turnbull rang the official or how many times.
Or why Hocky did or how often he did.
The wrong Turnbull HAS DONE is far worse than what it is claimed Swan did.
1 no loan, not one cent was given to any car dealer as a result of this scheme.
2 Rudd was leader of the opersition when he got that old second hand ute, he disclosed it long ago.
Have any of us the right to say it is wrong?
WHAT contract, tell me in detail what government contract this bloke got?
is he as a person known by Rudd or Swan barred from such contracts?
Some clearly are waiting till todays news papers are around the fish and chips to understand the issues.
In the house today the dreadful show put on by this mob is clear to honest thinkers they are up the creek without a paddle.
Only those who see no need to learn from mistakes or be honest and accountable in politics could think the egg is not squarely on Turnbull Hocky and others not the government.
Warning remember what you post, by the time this is over we will know in detail who made up this e mail we will know what took place in calls between Front benchers and that official we will see Turnbull face the fact he has to go.
he is dead by his own hand, thankfully never to unleash his spite as pm.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 6:09:16 PM
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I'm still not convinced this whole thing isn't Costello's idea of a "Whoopee" cushion.

Kinda like a big "far-q".
Posted by StG, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 6:37:07 PM
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Let the AFP do their job and lets get back to managing the affairs of the nation.
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:19:58 PM
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Well, that was fun.

Now watch the Right chalk it up as a conspiracy and gloss over the fact that the Libs are being run by an amateur desperate for political traction.

Who will they choose for Rudd to stomp into the ground next? I hope it's Abbott, although Hockey would provide a bit of drama.
Posted by Sancho, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:42:38 PM
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