To your credit, I’ll have to say that it’s true that everybody has the right to fight for our priority issues and we honestly cannot ‘do’ much about every issue- there are too many. But it’s still good to be aware and ‘do what you can'- little things perhaps- even to just buy free-range produce can make a difference.
It would really help community awareness when the local churches remember to address what is said in the bible on animal welfare.

OZGIRL, I'm enjoying this discussion, too ;)
I don’t see a problem with eating meat (I started to discuss this in the Animal Abuse discussion a while ago if you’re interested to read the comments- not too much space here.)
The thing is, in my view it is not viable to ask people to stop eating meat- that’s what the extreme animal activists are doing and things for the animals won’t improve. I am in favour of being sensible abou it and treating our animals well, giving them space and an environment that does not restrict them from displaying their natural behaviour (let pigs dig in mud etc), and let the slaughtering be quick and as humane as possible.

That is completely untrue!

I'm a christian and I just did a WHOLE unit on animal cruelty, yes, a WHOLE unit. Plus, my family is full of christians, and not once have they put more emphasis on women abuse than animal cruelty. I also had to do a powerpoint on battery chickens, how do you think I felt when i saw the pictures of them? DISGUSTED is what i thought. i found it completely inhumane and cruel. And another thing, my teacher -yes, she is a christian- made up a song about battery farming, a WHOLE song, not some riddle, but a SONG. we also had to take a trip to the RSPCA, where we went to a place with pictures of animal cruelty, my best friend is also a christian and she was there AND she thought the pictures were completely HORRIBLE, in fact, she felt like she was going to vommit!(she has a dog). OH yeah, my cousin, he lives and a farm, and guess what they have on their farm? SHEEP and I've seen the way he treats them and that is not inhumane!

Ozgirl and Celiva.

We NOT telling people not to eat meat.

How stupid and counter productive that would be.

We are asking the Churches to speak out about gross animal suffering which is quite unessary.

They should have done it a long time ago.

Has anybody noticed the lack of posts from the extreme groups who do tell people not to eat meat.?

Its curious isnt it.
When you think about all the money they collect from their members one may have thought they might like to explain their reasons for thier stand if only for the members sake.

Could it by that the extreme groups and the Churches have something in common?

Speaking of Silence can It be that Scout and Celivia have hit the nail on the head?

Graham y Thought for the day

The Sermon
A little girl became restless as the preacher's sermon dragged on and on. Finally, she leaned over to her mother and whispered, "Mommy, if we give him the money now, will he let us go.

Maxiyabby . [ i think I have that right dont I?Or is It Steven Maxwell.
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One Sunday morning, the pastor noticed little Alex was staring up at the large plaque that hung in the foyer of the church. It was covered with names, and small American flags were mounted on either side of it. The seven-year-old had been staring at the plaque for some time, so the pastor walked up, stood beside the boy, and said quietly, "Good morning, Alex." "Good morning," replied the young man, still focused on the plaque. "What is this?" Alex asked. "Well, son, it's a memorial to all the young men and women who died in the service." Soberly, they stood together, staring at the large plaque. Little Alex's voice was trembling and barely audible when he asked, "Which service, the 9:45 or the 11:15?"

Wendy, if I don't respond to one of your arguments it's because I don't see the point. The word and posting limits constrain you to those things that are most relevant - and I think that's a good thing.

I shudder when someone tells me that Steve Fielding, or any other politician, represents all Christians. Family First represents itself, and presumably any who want to be represented by it, but it can't impose representation on anyone. I've just sent them an email asking for a copy of their constitution. Will be interesting to read if it arrives.

BTW, I didn't raise the issue of abortion, Scout did when she talked about Tony Abbott. I'm not trying to goad anyone, I'm examining the issue of whether his position is a religious one or not.

I can't see why a church school would ban discussion of animal cruelty, and I'd be interested to see specifics of which school or schools you are talking about to see whether it was banned on the basis of someone's Christianity, or just because there was a rogue headmaster, or perhaps it was something to do with the way the case was argued.

My children don't go to a church school, but if they did and I heard of something like that I'd be up asking questions of the headmaster, just as I would at the schools they go to now. I'm sure there are some church schools which have peculiar views on things and impose them on the kids, but I'd be pretty sure that's not the majority.

I went to Catholic schools in the 60s and 70s and I don't recall anything being out of bounds. Apparently they almost gave the religion prize to me one year - and I was one of only two Protestants in my year, and quite vocal about what I believed, so they were fairly open to debate. But then the Augustinian Fathers did give us Martin Luther, and they have been strong supporters of science and a liberal education.

I know this is a little off topic but my daughter went to a christian private school for about 3 yrs....
There they taught their students that dinosaurs never existed and of course I was quick to tell my daughter this simply wasnt true...

She started when she was 7 yrs old..it was soon I realised that this school had nothing useful to teach my child except to confuse and lie to her.

So Graham Y..yes some schools do have some peculiar and confusing practices...
I simply dont know what they thought they were trying to acheive..yes of course the whole bit that if evolution was a fact that the Bible was then a lie.?

You won't find too many Christians in Australia who don't believe in creation OzGirl. And I don't think you'll find too many who think the whole Bible is the literal truth. But maybe we should start a new thread...