Amen, CJ.

I think Banjo must be missing Boaz.

Pelican - you just have to look at the UK, and a number of 'progressive European countries such as Holland and Belgium to realise there ARE examples of what can and does go wrong.

A pox on so called "discrimination", trotted out by every overly idealistic but completely unrealistic do-gooder in our already dysfunctional multicultural society.

We can do something now to stem the rot or do nothing and pay very dearly in the future.

I am the offspring of European migrants 2 generations back. We still practice some of the old customs and most of my parents generation still speak some of the old language - as do I and a few of my cousins. From the day my forebears feet touched Australian soil - that was their home, the land of fresh opportunity and a new loyalty to the English King. This attitude and that of like minded immigrants has helped make Australia the proud, strong prosperous Nation it is.

Now those values are being undermined by a small but dangerous minority who have little interest in 'integration' or even abiding by Australian law but instead are attacking everything the average Aussie holds dear, personal freedom, individual rights and secure lifestyle using our own misguided legislation.

“…how do you screen for attitude or willingness to integrate?”

As you say Pelican, with great difficulty.

But I don’t think we need to worry about that. The way forward is blindingly obvious to me. If we reduce our immigration intake down to net zero or thereabouts, we’ll essentially have the problem dealt with.

If we address the overall number of immigrants, we won’t have to worry too much about the very prickly issue of being highly selective based on religious, ethnic or social compatibility.

Of course we need to reduce immigration way down for environmental and sustainability reasons. But we also need to do this for reasons of preserving social harmony. The more out of whack our population becomes with our environment and life-supporting resource base, not least water, the more tensions are likely to manifest themselves between groups that are now living in relative harmony.

I think that we should double our refugee intake within a net zero immigration program. This intake should be those in the most urgent need of resettling irrespective of their religion or ethnicity.

But we would still be likely to have some issues with increased social disharmony if we do this. If there is a significant likelihood of this, then I’d suggest that our domestic peace should prevail and that we should modify our refugee intake accordingly.

Jewely
You confuse me! one time conservative and the other prograsive, one time good and the other not.
I agree with you.

Ludwig are you the old, known greeny Ludvig or you are a new one close to Banjo and other nationalists?

pelican
even you? Where did you see the intolerant, migrants are divided between their first and new country. When something very important or very tragic happened to their first country as civil war, deaths of relatives etc they react with the way they react. Do not you know that many migrants came from countries with big problems, bad personal experiences? Give them the time, more time if necessary.

Maximillion, you seem different I did not know that you worry so much from muslims!

runner, you do not have to write your name we can recognize you from your posts, Christian Taliban!

For me there is NO PROBLEM with migrants I was and I will be with them!

Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Sorry for delay in responding but have had some computer problems.

Ludwig, I agree that we should take note of the massive problems now encountered by European countries. I am also of the opinion that immigration should be reduced to net Zero, but that is a different debate. This is about stopping the importation of those groups of people that cannot or will not respect our society.

Max, You appear to know the situation in Denmark very well. As mentioned above, we are being fools if we disregard the European situation. Our children and their children will see the results of our apathy.

Pelican, You ask how we can screen for willingness to integrate. We can only go on our experiences with various groups. It is a cultural matter. For example, not all African and Middle Eastern people carry out FGM on their daughters. Dispite extensive education the incidence of FGM continues to rise. We can identify the groups and stop any further immigration here of those groups. Croats and Serbs continue to hate and fight over ancient issues. We simply say no more of you lot, we do not want you. What you do in your old countries is your affair, but here it is ours.

Jewelry, The police media release did mention Shi Lanka and other news items mentioned Tamils. I do not know How the Tamils differ from other Shi Lankans and I do not care. I know that behaviour is simply not acceptable. I suggest a close eye be kept and any similar instances should result in no more Tamils being allow entry.

Interesting that you note that the Lebanese in the Middle East have a good reputation. Not so here, Lebanese muslims here have a dreadfull reputation in anti-social behaviour. We do not seem to have the same problems with non muslim Lebanese or with muslims of other nationalities to same extent.

examinator, You do not see any problems at all. You are looking through rose coloured glasses.

"We have no need to import social problems.

We owe it to our children to keep the community safe and cohesive."

That can only be achieved by keeping out! those the will not abide by our standards.Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 21 May 2009 8:30:45 PM

Now that kicks the reality train right in the cabooze. Being Independent, while the world looses the plot, is good chess.

What a great thread.

P/S If you cant conform, piss off! you know my mother told me that.

EVO