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Community Benefits from Discriminatory Immigration policy

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An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and Canada .: some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark , a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration.
Posted by Maximillion, Friday, 22 May 2009 9:23:52 AM
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Banjo I read the link, could not find anywhere where it mentioned what race was involved.

It was a shock coming to Australia and the way the people talk about the Lebonese. Having lived in Saudi Arabia about 10 years ago I came in to contact with lots of the different Arabs - except the ones from Israil.

The Lebonese were the darlings of the Arabs, the gentle ones. Their children all spoke English, French and Arabic. The Jordanian's; I found kind of harsh but not like the Iraqi Arabs. The Saudi Arabs; mostly quite happy having lots of money. Everyone of them I met hated Americans.

Most of them thought NZ was a state of Australia and that was okay cause they all really liked us.

What did you do to them? Did it change when you buddied up with the Americans?

Did they find themselves living somewhere that attacks their previous homes with their kin still living there?
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 22 May 2009 10:24:59 AM
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I absolutely agree!...tolerating the intolerant has to stop!

Personally I have NEVER tolerated the intolerant;-not in my private life, nor on OLO.

Here WE go again: yet another thread that Muslims are responsible for all ills. WE need these threads on a regular basis don't WE?, so that we can vent our lungs/liver/spleen/and kidneys....against THEM.

Australia had no problems at all before THEY came. WE were such a nice tolerant White migrant settled country weren't WE? WE had the WhiteOz policy to protect us from THEM. Until THEY came, WE were a tolerant nation. No crime at all. WE even tolerated the 'Boongs'/the 'Chinks'/ the (I forget: what were WE calling the Italian migrants?).

So WE can enter THEIR countries to 'liberate' THEM;-decimate their infrastructure, and make a motsa by sending OUR contractors in to re build. But God forbid that THEY should want the life WE have.

And.. EXCUSE ME!!...how dare THEY dislike US. WE are the good guys.

I stress: there were NO problems AT ALL, until THEY came;-were there?
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Posted by Ginx, Friday, 22 May 2009 10:50:31 AM
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Here we go again. Ring the bell "bring out your (not so dead) prejudices"
Folks the real basic problem isn't with immigrants per se at best the argument is myopic at worst it's simply devoid of anything that resembles rational problem solving.

Conflict between groups is endemic in the the raw end of human nature.
Dare I point out that lesser reasoning will seek out differences as a means of self confirmation against fear/selfishness/greed ad nausum. Be they race/religion/cultural/wealth/class etc.
The riots in NY at the turn of the C20th between Anglophiles/Irish wealthy/rich, the Carnegie Steel created violence.

In Aust my dad told stories of youth's were involved in wide scale suburb V suburb gang wars. Fitzroy in Melb was 'working class' and home to crime (Squizzy Taylor & gang notorious gangster were just one). The Catholic/Proddies saga, Reffos, Ities, Dagos, Wogs, Chinks, yellow peril, Wogs, Slaves all had/have their share of prejudice. Now irrational hysteria is responding to the over hyped Muslim threat. Again the intellectually lazy or inept believe the self serving leaders of prejudice lynch mobs the sensationalised media and conservative extremes.
PS Many good Aussies would have been worse off if it hadn't been for the Afghan (Muslim) Camel traders etc. The Asian pearl divers in Broom. Both non assimilated groups.

Even the prejudice between areas i.e. football teams and codes etc.
The wealth envy take over etc. The fights prejudices between private/public schools.

Stopping immigration or even tightening criteria will achieve none of the stated aims at least for the above reasons.

Ludwig's argument which is ZPG will fail if only because of international treaties etc.
The Biggest group of Non Aussies are Kiwis. Those of Maori extract also often bring their cultural chips on shoulders and aggressive biases.
Next, try and exclude the non Aussie cultured sports persons particularly footy players.(good luck)

People I have never seen an objective and factual or long lasting remotely convincing benefit coming from the attitude embodied in the headline question.

The reasoning is simplistic, naïve and emotionally prejudice.
Look for solutions not victims. Aussie culture is flawed too.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 22 May 2009 11:11:22 AM
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Nice dog-whistle, Banjo.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 22 May 2009 5:35:56 PM
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Interesting that some in our Community (dare I say from the left) only ever recognise racism, sexism and violence if it carried out by white males. They have been blinded for a long time by their own dogmas. Kind of like the environmentalist who often are the most violent when demonstrating for peace and harmony. Those killed by Muslims in the Iraq war is Bushes fault, those killed in Afghanistan under the Obama administration is the fault of ?
Posted by runner, Friday, 22 May 2009 6:36:05 PM
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