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Sport and sex scandals

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It's homoerotic CJ (not that there's anything wrong with that), like a bunch of private school boys playing games with biscuits, or 'splatters', or 'dance of the flaming asshole' (You'd be waiting a long time for the rugby union private school chaps from the ABC to bring those kind of antics out into the open).

Though I'm sure many of the players would be horrified that their actions represent latent homsexuality. Maybe an expose on that angle would be the 'answer' for people who see group sex as 'degrading'.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 15 May 2009 11:37:44 AM
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Amazing that reports are surfacing that the girl at the centre of this romp boasted about it to her friends.
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/articles/2009/05/14/1241894109113.html

Often those who indulge in porn scream for their right to do so and then pretend to be surprised when the fruit of degradation arrives (ie suicide, unfaithfulness and family destruction.
Posted by runner, Friday, 15 May 2009 11:52:31 AM
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Interesting that our mate Rudd has just given this disgusting organisation, the ABC, even more of our money to waste on this sort of tripe.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 15 May 2009 11:52:51 AM
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I suppose that if this sort of behaviour, this
extreme pack-mentality is viewed as being normal,
and is encouraged, then young players won't
suddenly make for sexually responsible young men.

And of course those involved in this sex scandal,
and other group sex scandals over the past
decade still believe that they did nothing wrong,
as according to the law, they didn't. But consent
and willing participation doesn't always equal
sexually responsible behaviour.

Speaking as a mother of two young boys, I'd like to
ask the question - what of the young men? What of
the players, who've had their lives defined by a
culture that clearly sanctions this sort of behaviour?

As Phil Dye, mass media lecturer, in his recent article
entitled, "The rugby league fiasco: Who's really to blame?"
states,"The coaches, trainers and administrators of the
game have known about this type of 'bonding' behaviour for
decades...while not breaking the law, have shown immense
disrespect towards their players and the women these players
meet. Legal issues aside, it's the impact these encounters
have on the young men in their care - men who should be
mentored into positions of social responsibility, that is
the important issue."

The only way anything is going to change is if the culture
changes that condones and encourages this type of behaviour.
As Phil Dye points out: "...we need to target the leaders
who have built the culture and who profit from it, not
the players who are themselves the victims of it."

We need to have new leaders in the rugby league family
who as Dye suggests, "have a strong responsibility to build
outstanding men who can hold their heads up as players and
role models."
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 May 2009 1:04:41 PM
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The thing is Foxy, once again you seem to think that it is
the blokes who need to change.

What say you go out and educate those girls, that if they
go around offering themselves to a bunch of blokes,
be they footballers, band members, surfers, you name it,
more then likely they will get laid. Its a bit late then
to turn around and call it disrespectful or anything else.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 15 May 2009 1:37:29 PM
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Sprung it shows my interest in football sub zero, yes I played when I was young and still wanted to be one of the 'guys' but not since, I was 16. Apologies for the name mix up.

I didn't say I agreed with it only stated reality.
Matt is in a 'star' and is therefore in the public's (sic) mind is fair game.
Likewise she shared in the benefits so she shouldn't be surprised.

Consider the Quintex saga because her hubby was a crook ask why Pixie should enjoy the spoils while the dudded share owners (mums and dads) should pay. The same goes for Adler and the HIH crash. The same principle.

Likewise I think it stinks that disgraced directors hide their ill gotten gains by having the wife, children, off shore dummy corps etc.

Yes Corps have the $ first last etc. see Hardie Ind. Gunns et al.(see “stars and stripes” topic) it sucks.

In this vein you argument about the slow runner is moot on several grounds.
The point made was that contact sports have a disproportionate (compared to the population) rate of occurrences of antisocial behaviours including violence etc. (the US NBA investigation of some years back [cited].). I was not saying that physical prowess was needed but it seems to me to be two other issues here.
Duty of care of employees.

Selecting out those that are inclined to these behaviours after all many jobs today require clean records. Take the 'blue(?) card' teachers must have. They too influence children.
And the media needs to have standards beyond the gutter sensationalism. However as stated the conservative element wouldn't accept this.
Personally I believe that we all have responsibility to others be that simply polite on OLO or if we gain fame, and fortune the latter increases our responsibility particularly if we want
to be seen as a pillar of society. That includes taking our lumps if we err.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 15 May 2009 2:44:22 PM
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