When will the ladies, & some old f4rts on here catch up with todays world?

When will they learn that many many young women go out on Saturday night to GET LAID? Qiute a few go out to get notches on their gun butt, not find just any old bloke. Footballers are a great notch, in some circles.

As a bit of an old prude muself, I was quite taken aback, the first time I heard some of my young lady staff, discussing across an open office, weather they had "scored" on Saturday night. After opening my eyes, I realised that this was a common action with many 20 something ladies. This was in the 70s.

As a successful competitor in a dangerous sport, where people died, I was subject to the attention of some groupies. Some of these were the most gorgeous sophisticated women I have ever met. If only they had been interested in me, not what I did. A few young blokes were quiet shattered when they discovered they were just a cheep thrill.

So get off your high horse, & realise that it's these young "ladies" who have taught most of these young blokes haw to behave, & not the other way around. I suggest you start your remedial action in the right place.

The real tragedy is when these kids, having had sex thrown at them for a year or two, no longer realise this is not normal behaviour, & push their attention where it is not welcome. Then they , & the lady involved both get hurt.

Foxy:"the potential for
psychological damage."

Why is psychological damage worse than physical damage, which people choose to risk for all sorts of reasons, with very few people saying they shouldn't, nor sympathising much when it goes wrong? Do we sack the pilot if a skydiver breaks his leg or neck?

Foxy:"clearly impacted
greatly on the lives of many"

How many, do you think? My suspicion is that it has genuinely negatively impacted on very few. The girl in the Johns case doesn't appear to have been harmed by the event so much as the reaction of her co-workers.

Foxy:"naive young woman involved in the Johns
incident, a woman described as 'unwordly' by the
investigating police officer, has been damaged for life."

I propose that she was damaged before ever this incident took place. I knew quite a lot of naive young women when I was a young man and I had trouble enough getting them to drop their knickers when it was just us two. I bet you didn't go off with footballers for group sex sessions, did you? In fact, I'd go so far as to say that I doubt any of the women posting here would have done what this girl did, which makes her far from naive, in my book.

So, all-in-all, it doesn't answer the question at all. Any risky endeavour entered into freely, with or without all the facts known, is a personal problem from then on it seems to me. Sure, if it goes wrong, feel free to ask for help, but don't ask for help just because it got hard along the way and don't expect to be able to blame someone else if it all goes wrong.

That's what we expect of adults.

Allright gentlemen. I now understand what
you're saying. The recently aired NRL sex scandal
and the bad behaviour among footballers is not
the result of alcohol or "bad apples" in the group
or even the masculine team sports culture.
It's all the fault of "loose" women.

So, we don't really need to be looking more closely
at the way we set the rules of conduct among young men
in sport. There's no link for example between male
violence and male team sport. There don't need to be any
rules to constrain male behaviour.

We don't need to set lifelong inter-personal standards
through agreed rules of conduct, as you say - they're
all adults.

There's no risky drug and alcohol consumption.
It's not higher in male team sports than in non-team
sports. We all know that among rugby league and AFL
players alcohol consumption is not excessive and doesn't
result in inter-personal conflict or violence.
They're not given a social licence to behave violently
on the field.

After all male sport is not the source of harmful rules
for violent conduct or violence among men.
Coaches, trainers, administrators and Club owners have
no responsiblity or obligation for the behaviour of
the players under their care.
Therefore all "loose" women should be rounded up and
incarcerated.

Thank you for clearing all this up for me.

Foxy: “Therefore all "loose" women should be rounded up and incarcerated.”

Lucky bloody guards.

I missed this story in detail, my daughter mentioned it when she spotted me reading this and she seemed to know more than me. Her only comment was that it is everywhere and why was I reading about it. I told her that from what I had learnt so far, on here, I suspect it because the budget was rather boring.

Foxy does it work… I mean on here do sometimes you manage to convince someone that they aren’t getting it? I see you trying, wit, intelligence, sarcasm, facts, history, quoting. But they keep responding and really aren’t getting it. I would have beaten the crap out of my vacuum cleaner well before now.

I think it’s like what Peter said to me about writing to Kevin; “they know if one wrote a thousand more did not put pen to paper”. This one woman will be picked to bits while the line grows longer behind her and those who preceded her forgotten.

Robert – what?

The person I am now is nothing like the person I once was.
That is surely true for most of us past 50.
I would not now consider group sex, but the raw country youth, much younger than this lady, did, more did in working class Sydney,s west than did not.
No not rape, by invitation.
Too many years ago, very very famous TV personality hunted men, well youths, to add to her cherry tree.
She had a big show bag of hits and wanted more .
Foxy, sorry, but such females exist, they force doors open haunt sportsmen, groupies
They brag about it like showing stamp collections.
Some haunt truck stops, drivers are their wanted catch, men of course are no better, but not worse either.
Single for a long time let me tell you men like me are targeted by other men,s wives women are as active as men in wanting a safe fling.
It comes down to this, its sexual culture , not ever going to be the perfect world some want.
And if you ever saw the monster, yep that,s what we call her, a girl model like in every way, in action, hunting men for sex, you would under stand why I think Matty [that is what he is know as] is a victim too, and why insulting one sport is laughable.

*Therefore all "loose" women should be rounded up and
incarcerated.*

No Foxy, loose women will get screwed as they requested.

Ridicule is not goint to make your point for you.

Sheesh, I can only conclude that you led a very sheltered
teenage hood. People cut loose, do silly things, learn and
grow. Thats life and part of growing up.

At some point, the woman in question will have to stop
blaming the world and realise that she was responsible
for her actions.

I still think that perhaps she has some agenda that we
don't know about, for going public with all this, after
so many years.

Fact is that had she done the same with her local band, other
sports team, or other group, she most likely would have landed up with
a similar outcome. Men will have sex with women
if they invite them to, especially if those women
are still young and attractive. All your social
conditioning plans will fail, that is the reality.