Yes the young lady did brag about it.
She seems to have been more than willing to take part with Johns and Firman.
Even asking Johns to return.
Was she paid for the interview?
Are we to believe those few idiots who watched ruined her life or those she willingly took to bed?
C J Morgan talks of a circle, if that is true it is a homosexual practice .
Are we however to judge others sexual acts against our morals?
The thread sees some unable to focus on the fact females ,like blokes hunt for sex.
group sex is not abnormal for many.
It is not knew for people to change their minds after the event,
Those rubbishing my game, go the Dragons tonight, should consider this, like it or not its not restricted to one sport.
So many have done worse and not been kicked in the guts like Johns.
Queen Victoria too thought women could not do some things, believe me fathers day in some country towns is total confusion.
She did brag about it, think about that what changed her mind?
Oh Johns should not feed the sharks, given the way he has been miss used he should not give up his ex team mates, no one should,

Belly, Johns is looking more and more like the victim in all this.

I wonder if the sanctimonious prats who still can't tell me what exactly was wrong with what happened will have the balls to stand up and admit they're wrong, as Johns has had the guts to take all this on the chin? I'll offer good odds if anyone wants to place a small wager...

The New Wowsers are anything but courageous, sadly.

Examinator:"The only reason it appears so is because of the bias of some males "

Examinator:"this sort of sexual predation is based on inequality/abuse of power, maturity or vulnerability etc. "

Who was the predator - the woman (not "teenager", as the media like to paint it), or the footballers? Take your time...

What of Charmyne Palahvi, mid-late 30s, openly preys on young male footballers? Are you outraged at the plight of her "victims"?

Frankly, old chap, your thinking bits could do with some work.

Foxy:"I'm not assigning blame - both the young
men and women are the victims"

Fantastic work, Foxy, you've just defined the world's first perpetratorless crime. That's so much more useful than a victimless one, isn't it? Think of all the great jobs for social workers when we no longer need courts or prisons for perpetrators, just lots of victim-counselling. Awesome stuff, you deserve proper recognition. It's a bit of a perpetual-motion machine churning out victims at every turn, isn't it?

R0bert:"The act appears to have been consentual at the time. It was legal than and now. Why is this different to other adult sexual activity which some find distastful and or wrong?"

Good luck with that, I've been asking that since way back at the start and stony silence has been the result (except from Sanctimonator, such as it was).

Examinator, my apologies for the "Sanctimonator" comment, etc. I woke up feeling a bit on the irascible side this morning.

Dear Antiseptic,

Perhaps this may answer the question for you
far better then I ever could. It's taken
from Phil Dye's article that I referred
to in an earlier post and it talks about consent
and willing participation not equalling behaviour
that is morally satisfying.

" Most of us remember consenting to something that
caused us grief or shame. We all, at sometime in
our lives, have regretted participating in an act
because our involvement left us emotionally raw
or compromised. It's life and that's how we learn.

Most of us get over it quickly due to the trivial
nature of the episode and the absence of psychological
damage.

The incidents descrobed both by Johns and the woman
however involved youth, inexperience, celebrity
and sexual extremism facilitating the potential for
psychological damage... not only for the woman,
but for all parties involved..."

Dye goes on to say that our early sexual encounters
can be life affirming or life destroying and can
create a template for intimacy that extends
throughout our lives. They can form a sense of
responsibility for both ourselves and others and that's
important during our early adult sexual experiences.

It's the extreme nature of the NRL's group sex
'bonding' incidents that has clearly impacted
greatly on the lives of many. And as Dye's article
tells us "The naive young woman involved in the Johns
incident, a woman described as 'unwordly' by the
investigating police officer, has been damaged for life.
Numerous other unnamed women...women unwordly yet curious,
have been equally damaged through their naive, yet legal
participation."

I hope this helps answer the question for you and the
other gentlemen on this Forum.

Yes Foxy, it answers the question for me. It seemingly shows
the urgent need for the education of "unwordly, naive young
girls".

From what I've read, it seems that the woman in discussion,
knocked off another couple of blokes in the toilets, just
the night before the incident in question.

I was once in a bar, where a drunk young lady wandered in
and she had just broken up with the boyfriend. She was
going to get screwed by somebody in that bar, anybody,
that was her determination.

Now if young girls go around throwing themselves at
blokes, they will get screwed, its as simple as that.

Isolating footballers is simply what is on the news
today, it could be any group. It does not address the
fundamental question that you are concerned about.

more names were released..[but i cant find them..[clever releasing them on friday]dead news day..note..none of the informative[knowledgable] ones here..bothered posting these heroes names ...lol

the media reveals..yet reveals badly..[just as the miss-informants post but post badly]..selective with the facts..,i saw but their faces quickly flashed on a brief news-cast..[bet no one else saw it][not sure if they were outing them selves or outed],and couldnt care less

[but who care's..its only retaded sport's heroes..and sport is for the mindless..[why the hell is it called news]..so we can halve the real;ly new info the people can get acces to[its just like rome]

some retard is allways going to do..one clever thing..to make the rest look like inteligent thoughtfull brainiacs,..but its clever or fluke or accident[not news]

reminds me of when a dumb farmer [in rubber boots] couldnt read the time and broke a record because he thought his 20 minute sleep, was a full night[even an idiot can makke his body do one last clever thing...lol]

only new foolishness..[not news..[enough to fool their braind-dead sports 'fans;,..flaming their meager flames of fame of ego in their favourite expensive sports team vest..its all enough to make the dullard crowds go breathless..[and lure-in the next retarded groupie]..bah humbug,..on to real issues..real news

i will leave mindles sports reporting..to the mindless