Ginx, yes I've been heartened too to see many men standing up against the trend. All good.

When I mentioned this somewhere, Yabby's response was that a lot of blokes lie to the missus. Partly true; always possible, but nobody forces decent men to write on message boards about imbalances of power and control and social justice.

pynch.

OUG - what you posted is very important. The Utubes are well worth hearing; it's all a very important issue. I liked what someone posted on section 5:

"Anywhere you find BIG money you will find
BIG atrocities.
World Peace"

I worry most about the children. It floors me that many pupils are medicated on the say-so of a teacher reporting on a child's over exhuberant or other non-conforming behaviour, which in another setting would be unproblematic. The medications of choice are basically amphetamines - speed; though children are medicated with many drugs nowdays. Get someone addicted to a drug and you can get them to do almost anything to maintain supply (as many porn producers could tell you).

Also bear in mind that multinational drug companies of the non-psychiatric variety also command obscene power, wealth and political influence around the world.

All that said, I must also say that I have seen many people gain welcome relief from anti-psychotic and other medications. I know many ethical GPs and Psychiatrists who are very dedicated to client well-being and very thoughtful about what treatment ivolves.

The problem I think is that meds are often the first (and only) response. I don't think any medication should be taken by anyone without regular review of its usefulness and without it being accompanied by talk therapy and any other support the situation warrants.

Your post could probably spawn a whole board of its own - maybe you could consider putting it up for focused discussion.

Thanks for the links.

pynch :)

I may be wrong, we all are sometimes.
I do you now try never to be rude.
I am a hard nut, say it like it is.
And my job teaches me, every day.
to watch just why others say things.
A reason may exist for it.
But Ginx whatever your problem is you are the rudest poster here.
Jewely, keep your daughter in your threads, but yes if you continue that white Aussie racist rubbish we will clash.
Go back to post one, yes I said it was wrong, did not truely think it all was.
I believe with fairness the evedence of the woman, her workmates, she had group sex days before this, in a toilets, class act that.
Bragged about it.
Told of her intention to do it again.
Went willingly with two players for sex to a room.
Here it is not all ok, much like the first gang bang uninvited people, poor silly fools, climbed in windows even.
But none of us know, did she complain?
She told the ugly one, still want to know who he was no.
It is said some stood around and had a circle wank, homosexual? maybe.
Now ginx do not think you have got to me, no way we are going to talk again, but whatever your problem is get well , true I wish you well.
I smell hatred of men here, blind uncontrolled hatred, targeting of sportsmen, childlike views that strong men are lessor humans.
Well women such as this exist sex such as this takes place and trying to say she must be mad is,madness.

Examinator:""the student prison" and the 'National guard authority test"

I'm familiar with them both, thanks. Neither is relevant.

What they show is that people given authority and no responsibility for the consequences of their actions will become authoritarian. WOW, who'd have thought? Sounds a great deal like the situation that many feminists are trying to engineer, don't you think?

"Girls can do anything", "Don’t call me sweetie… It’s bad for your teeth"(nice, eh?), a very appropriate one in the circumstances "Keep your f*king laws off my body! ", "Sisterhood Is Powerful ", "Behind Every Succesful Woman Is Herself".

Not much sense of responsibilty in any of that, just a sense of entitlement to power, which is at the heart of your two examples above.

Examinator:"if you were a multi millionaire and an Executive chances are you may have power to abuse"

So much for "meaningful and relevant".

examinator:"I believe in equity between sexes and where it doesn't exist then the stronger/more powerful has a responsibility to society and therefore towards the weaker"

And how do you define your terms? What if the "weaker" doesn't want to be "helped"? Tough luck, you're doing it anyway?

Examinator:"Your definition of fairness in this instance appears to be culturally gender biased."

Oh, does it? Precisely how? Try to avoid the usual waffling, it simply makes your posts long, not readable.

examinator:"understandable over reaction to their perceived victim status"

And if I perceive myself as a victim (with some just cause)? Is it "understandable" if I over-react as a man or is that reserved for women, them being "the weaker sex" in need of a man's protection?

The relevance of feminism to the issue is not the original incident, but in the way it was brought up years later and beaten up without any shred of evidence of a crime. As Miranda Devine pointed out, this was an orchestrated hatchet job run by women for women, with the intent of getting women into positions of authority within football.

“I got back and checked my emails. I got a tip off that a 'lady' (you want cattiness-this is your gal;-she never stops), on a website, that I had left YEARS ago (true!), had made a derogatory comment about me.”

Good onya Ginx, well played.

Pychme; Many kids that come in to care have their little brown bags from the chemist in tow. I have not found a child yet that has Oppositional Defiant Disorder or HDHD once the medication is withdrawn. Even sleeping drugs for little babies that wake too early in the morning. In fact every symptom described to me as a reason to keep the children medicated has never struck me as anything but normal behavior for whatever age.

“Jewely, keep your daughter in your threads, but yes if you continue that white Aussie racist rubbish we will clash.”

Cheers Belly, oh see that racist stuff wont go away. I promise it is not my fault that the only white Aussies I have met are racist – I think it is their fault.

Like many things I think you don’t notice it unless you are a target or friends with targets. You might only know nice white men Belly who don’t tell racist jokes and call people of colour wogs, talk about towel heads or even the white trash down at the local caravan park.

Examinator:”...If I over-react as a man or is that reserved for women, them being "the weaker sex" in need of a man's protection?”

Have you met my daughter somewhere?

*For the last time:
The girl was NOT one of the groupies.*

Ginxy dear, when a chick starts to knock em off two at a time,
on a couple of consecutive nights, it is not unreasonable
for blokes to start considering her as a groupie, the mind
works by association.

Now that little map of Tassie that these girls have between
their legs can be quite empowering when it comes to young blokes
and when they throw it around with ease, blokes will jump
to conclusions.

You can of course defend the sisterhood with all the passion
that you have, but it does not change the fundamentals of the
rational argument.

Yabster...dear,
'TWO consecutive nights' eh? From a 'chick'. Add that to the 'bragging BEFORE and after' and your 'map of Tassie' sleaze.

It's growing like Topsy isn't it?

And you talk about my passionate defence of the sisterhood?? Not..no! NOT your defence of the squalid bar room boys rhetoric?

Tinkerbelly: YOUR bar room style quotes about this girl disgust me.
I have much the same opinion of you, as you of me.

My friends are all male. I prefer their company. They see no 'blind hatred'........;from me...

(One of the boys suggested that you blokes actually had a low opinion of males, believing they are incapable of taking any responsibility for themselves. It's an interesting theory).

For my view of the girl and the Groupies, refer to my previous posts.