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Is the Bible inerrant, infallible or God's word?

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Dear David f,
My old uncle used to say to me that I shouldn't be lost in Australia because I have an English speaking mouth I am not to sure where I would end up if I follow your directions. Sorry if I ofend.
Posted by Richie 10, Thursday, 9 April 2009 12:34:06 PM
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Dear Richie 10,

We are both aliens. I am from the US and had to learn a new language. "Refuse tip" does not mean 'reject a gratuity.' "Rug up. Colder is tipped." does not mean that Colder was exposed as a dirty dog, and the rug was pulled out from under him. 'Tea' does not mean snacks served in mid-afternoon. 'biscuit' means cookie etc.

Best wishes with your language.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 9 April 2009 12:51:28 PM
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Richie 10

What a strange method of adding to a discussion - this comment <<And you don't have a clue because you don't know what repent means and I don't mean the common usage religious meaning but the true meaning>>

Please tell me your definition or REPENT Richie so I don't get side tracked with conventional definitions?

Not to be rude (as you would say) I usually, where word count permits, explain things a little better than you do.

I try to give the Bible Chapter and verse and the words to save people the time of dusting off their old black book and reading it.

<<If you are looking in the wrong direction what you see is not what you think you see>>

Actually if you are looking in the wrong direction you see what you see. It may not be what you are looking for but you still see it. On this subject I have looked in every direction and seen it all!

Would you like to expand on your gem of literary confusion.

I suspect from reading your comments, that English may not be your first language. If that is the case might I suggest that you explain things in somewhat more detail so that we can at least try to understand the points you are trying to make.

Your one or two sentence comments don't convey what you mean properly.
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 10 April 2009 9:01:00 PM
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Dear Opiniated 2,
The old testament starts with creation, then the fall, judgment at Methuselah's death, and so on all about infalible God talking to man throgh falible men and sometimes the meaning gets lost in the telling. If you do a study of God you will find he is a good God, is Love, is light, is the Truth, is Life and in him is no shadow or turning. Adam chose to believe the devil and changed gods {sides}. The old testament foretells Jesus as God with man, creator, word of God, Lamb of God, First born from the dead, the redeamer, son of man and in the begining, born of a virgin, King of Kings and Mighty God.
When I was young Gay was a girls name and meant to
be happy. Today Gay means homosexual so if a book was written 50 years ago with the word gay in it they were not talking about homosexuals. As the bible was written over a 4000 year period modern usage of words only brings confusion and misunderstanding.
Repent means to feal deep sorrow at ones rong doing, Modern Oxford
Dictionary.
In the new testament Jesus tells us God is not mad at mankind but wants a father son relationship not through a third person
whether he be a King, the Pope or an interlect{well educated} person.
Jesus fulfilled the old testament and became the door for all mankind once more to have relationship with God the father. All you have to do is believe in the one who God sent. so in Jesus times to repent meant to change direction from where you are going and turn around
and head for God. As a man thinks in his heart the mouth speaks. To repent requires a change of heart. Impossible for man but possible with God for with God all things are possible. Unless God builds the house we labour in vane. When man builds a kingdom it is for power and benifit to the builder. When God the Holy Spirit builds the Kingdom it benefits all mankind.
Posted by Richie 10, Saturday, 11 April 2009 10:07:18 AM
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Richie 10,

TY that was a far better post than your previous.

Now for the problems...

Is the Bible God's word? If not which bits are and which aren't?

In this thread I have given some pretty good examples of where the Bible is a very poor reference book. For you to take out of a book that God is so wonderful when "GOD" hardened Pharaoh's heart is just not logical.

IF the story of the passover is correct...It states quite categorically that God killed the first born of Egypt. If God is good he COULDN'T have done such a thing.

It is simple to understand... It is wrong!

In Jesus' times repent meant far more than just to turn around and change direction.

I can't see how God has built a Kingdom that benefits all mankind... when the OT states he killed the firstborn of Egypt.

From what I see God's Kingdom building is a failure!

Look at the wealth of churches...Where is their compliance to Jesus' word?

"No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." Luke 16:13

When will the first amputees leg grow back through God’s grace?

Matthew 17:20...NOTHING will be impossible for you!

Where are all the prayers being answered in John 14:14 “You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it”

Richie all those words Christians love from the OT are just words if what Jesus says is not happening!

You can't say God is a loving, caring entity if you read the Bible properly. He allows mass murders of innocents by Moses.

It seems to me that if there is a God he must be thinking how can my followers believe I would do such horrid things! How do my son's followers believe this rubbish?

Isn't believing the Bible to be God's word, actually the greatest insult to a God, (if one exists), than anything else? It is an insult to an intelligent being!
Posted by Opinionated2, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 12:48:59 AM
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Dear opiniated 2,
Even you should be able to understand if you stand in the rain you get wet. God is the God of the living not the dead. If you chose to leave or not accept his covering your blood is on your hands not Gods. The bible is not an easy book to understand BUT ALL Scripture is given by God and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. I again make the point if you understand the bible you are either a genius or have made the study of the bible your lifes work.
Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 6:34:58 PM
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