Newsflash, OP2.

>>Christians - Please invite all friends to join this thread. Bible study for John 3:16ers. It is an open invitation! Who knows an atheist might be reading this and convert!<<

I would humbly suggest that a "conversation" between yourself and runner is far more likely to achieve the opposite outcome.

Incidentally, I recall that you had elsewhere protested that you are not a Christian.

>>Thankyou for your explanation Pericles ... I am not a Christian.<<

This makes your present attitude even more puzzling, does it not? On what basis do you accuse runner of sinning, if not through a Christian faith?

>>Runner you have just sinned. I am not on drugs or insane - Exodus 20:16: “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."<<

And why on earth, as a non-Christian, would you exhort Christians to join the thread, with the view to converting atheists?

You haven't been telling porkies, have you?

Or perhaps - and here's a thought - you are actually an atheist employing devious tactics to scare people away from Christianity?

In which case, you're very much on the right track.

But I still wonder why you would want to do such a thing. What satisfaction can it possibly give you?

Have a great day.

Dear Opinionated 2,

You do sound somewhat agressive in
your approach towards people who may
happen to have a different system of
beliefs to yours. However have no fear
no one is going to attempt to convert
you, especially me. Whatever we believe
in (or don't) is a personal choice
that we make. I wouldn't dream of putting
any one down because of their beliefs, (unless
they hurt people). I feel that what people believe
is a private matter and their own affair.

For me personally, I was raised as a Catholic, but
I'm probably not a very good one - because I cringe
at some of the things that Cardinal Pell (and Rome)
does. And I don't agree with many of their stands on
certain issues. I tend to follow my conscience,
demand meaning and relevance from my Church, and I
won't allow my God to be reduced to empty ritual and
all-absorbing law.

I certainly don't have all the answers and am in no
position to judge anyone. I can only struggle to find myself,
to love my fellow human beings, and to hope that in this
way I am truly loving God. All I can do is try to be a
decent human being.

As for the Bible being infallible - as I said, it's a
question of faith and belief. To me - the Bible was written
by men - so how could it possibly be infallible? It started
as an oral tradition before being written down. Language
translations are not always accurate - neither are men's
memories - but I'm not a Biblical scholar - so I won't be
entering into this discussion about its pluses or minuses -
anyone seeking to find mistakes in anything will eventually
succeed - I'm sure. But to what end? And why?

Be secure in your own belief (whatever it is) and don't try
to tear down those of others.

Anyway, that's my opinion - you do what you feel
you must. I'll see you on another thread.

Cheers.

So are you proseltysing for atheism or for some obscure Christian sect?

Come on godbotherers answer the question.
Is the bible true or not?

There are a variety of lists around which detail contradictions in the bible and there are rebuttals of the lists. The rebuttals seem to have to accept that the bible is not inerrant or infallible (depending on how you use those words).

Those who wish to treat the bible as a literal historically and scientifically accurate document have to turn a lot of blind eye's to maintain that belief. Those who don't try and treat it as that don't face the same problem. If it's a scientific document then the difference between Pi and 3 is not a big problem, if it's the inerrant and infallible word of god then the difference is significant. 1 Kings 7:23 and 2 Chron. 4:2

Contradictions/errors
- http://www.bidstrup.com/bible2.htm
- http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

One of the rebuttals
- http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm

Much depends on how people want to treat the text.

R0bert

Mikk challenges

'Come on godbotherers answer the question.
Is the bible true or not?'

The way you interpret it certainly isn't. You obviously have no idea who the Author is so you have little chance of understanding something you obviously hold in contempt. Hopefully your god hating will come to an end before its to late.