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Is the Bible inerrant, infallible or God's word?
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Posted by Opinionated2, Monday, 20 April 2009 10:31:10 PM
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Dear Op 2,
Are you born again. Are your sins forgiven. Do you have assurance of salvation. Is your final destination settled. Does the Holy Spirit live in you. Do You talk in other tongues. Do you cast out demons. Do you lay hands on the sick. Have you been baptised as a believer in Jesus. {cut your covernent with God with the circumcision not made with human hands}. If you have the true knowledge of the bible you have to say "yes" to ALL these words of my Lord Jesus the anionted son of GOD [the Christ] other wise it is only head knowledge and will not rescue you when you are in a jam. Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 10:10:39 AM
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Richie,
This is a dangerous area of Jesus' teachings! (Mark 16:15-18). Then Jesus predicted what would happen: "These signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well" Please don't try this stuff! Do you really believe all these things? It took awhile, but I suspected your religious beliefs would out themselves, sooner or later. That is why I quoted Matthew 7:20-24, I hoped it wouldn't, but I thought it might bring out the real you. What demons have you cast out? It is unChristian to fib! Do you do the things, that you suggest I should do, or be able to do? Do you have the faith to be a healer? Why do we need Doctors? Why isn't Richie and his clan, filled with the power of the Holy Spirit, at hospitals to heal everyone. You will save Medicare a fortune! Do you actually heal people? If God is so miraculous, why do you need to "lay on hands" surely your prayers are enough? John 14:14 “You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it” Have you or any of your clan cured a mute person, rebuilt a polio affected leg or rebuilt an amputee's leg? Matthew 17:20...NOTHING will be impossible for you! Do you have "the faith of a mustard seed", Richie? If you are such a great Christian...answer my questions. So Richie let's quietly try John 14:14 - I have an obvious disability. I am open to God's Grace and a healing. Can you please ask God to heal me in Jesus' name? I promise to convert to Christianity and take up the cross if your prayer works today. REMEMBER :John 14:14 “You may ask me for anything in my name, AND I WILL DO IT” This is an unequivocal statement Richie...I hope your prayer works! Posted by Opinionated2, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 3:55:13 PM
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Dear Op 2,
So what is God and his son Jesus. A liar and a religious myth. My God is everywhere at all times {omnipresent} , is Love {agapa} not carnal. Is Jehovah Jira my provider. He is my healer and in him I live and move and am. Without him I am dead meat. You are 30 years too late with your message of doubt fear and unbelief to make me doubt God. John 3:16,17 & 18 says it all . If you don't believe you disqualify your self. God has done his part You either connect or reject there is no pergurety where you get another chance. Sorry old mate but it is your choice and you need to get accurate Knowledge. And I don't where else you can get it aside from the book you reject. Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 6:50:47 PM
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Richie 10,
You Christians just can't help yourselves can you? Even though you lack the courage to answer my questions, I at least have the courtesy to answer yours! Richie "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Matthew 7:12 FAIL I'll point out the passages you fail Richie. Sorry you have taken 30 years to be corrected. <<So what is God and his son Jesus. A liar and a religious myth.>> I think the Bible is full of myth...and if there is a God/Jesus, they are ashamed Christians portray them as unintelligent, by teaching the Bible as truth. Am I healed yet, or has the mustard seed parable come true again? Matthew 17:20 Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. If a person or organisation teaches a falsehood in Jesus name, is he a ravenous wolf? Where was your God during the Victorian bushfires, the Asian Tsunami, and where is he protecting the innocents in Iraq that have been killed? If he is, omnipresent, maybe we are in his 7th day and he is resting? http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake http://www.smh.com.au/national/victorian-bushfires-death-toll-drops-to-173-20090330-9g9y.html If God and Jesus exist they do not intervene and therefore break Jesus' alleged word in John 14:14 “You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it” I do not have a message of "fear" that is what Christians threaten! "Do not bear false witness" Exodus 20:16 FAIL John 8:7 ….let he who has not sinned cast the first stone….” FAIL Did you just threaten hell on me? Oh so now you can speak for God? Be careful or Matthew 7:20-24 might apply to you. You are on dangerous ground! Fundamentalist Christians just can't help threatening people..Who gave you the right to threaten hell & damnation on people? John 8:7 ….let he who has not sinned cast the first stone….” FAIL I have accurate knowledge...plus, I understand that if God exists he will be proud of me questioning false teachings! God deliberately gave us a questioning mind...I choose to use mine! Posted by Opinionated2, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 10:01:19 PM
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Dear Op 2,
Have I got your atention tet. God is the God of the supernatural for the bible tells me so. Jrsus worked in the supersatural after his baptism. Jesus said we would work in the supernatural after our baptism. Do you believe he is a liar or the trutm,your choice not mine for I believe He raid it. If you do not cut your covernent witm God this side of the grave you are too late. Our spirit returns to God at death and if tou havn't purchased your ticket you burn for when negative and positive connect sparks fly (Eccl 12:7). For those who trust in Jesus to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, at the right hand of the father. So to sum up, come in my good and faihful servent or the lake of fire prepaired for the devil and those who don't trust God. Hard words. Each person choses his own destination. It is not an accident but a choice. Man was created in the image of God. Your words create life or death for you. Are you looking for the posibility for without faith you can never please God. Faith is the substance of things hoped for. What do you hope for. Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 6:49:26 AM
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I understand that you no longer wish to debate the Bible. It is hard to argue when presented with Jesus' words in a way that Churches never teach. But I was quoting the Bible and I do it more than the average Christian.
I disagree with yours and other interpretations of the Bible when they just don't make sense.
I didn't think I had a "make of the Bible" mine is the same as yours. I just read it and analyse it correctly. To argue it is "God's Word" is insulting to the alleged God.
I am not against Christianity per se...I have many Christian friends.
I just believe that if Christianity stands for anything it should commence with "honesty". Honesty in teachings, words and deeds.
If churches and people can't be honest about the Bible and their religion then their faith is built on sand not rock.
Matthew 7:20-24 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
So if this is the case according to Jesus "building your house upon rock" or knowledge is most important.
To look at the Bible simplistically and to just accept does your religion no good whatsoever. In fact I would say that is the greatest failing of Chritianity...It premotes an unintelligent God.
So we agree to disagree...I still think you are a good person!