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Is the Bible inerrant, infallible or God's word?

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Dear Opiniated 2
Unless God builds the house we labour in vain . In church building who is getting the glory. If God is in the house this sign is evident
1. God comes first.
2. Love for one another.
I have heard reports of amputees growing hands in muslim countrys but I can't verify this. Most people can talk the talk. It is impossible to walk the walk unless God builds the house. Have you ever wondered why before pentecost Peter denied Jesus but after pentecost He was a different character . What changed.
Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 6:55:21 PM
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Richie 10,

Have you lost the plot?

TY for explaining that if you stand in the rain you get wet... That was the most ridiculous line I have ever read!

I agree that the Bible isn't easy to understand for you... but I have no problems whatsoever understanding it.

All scripture isn't given by God.. The passover didn't take place...Pharaoh was the first born of his line...he didn't die. You need to study harder!

How can anyone, who is of sensible, believe that their alleged loving God would kill all the first born of Egypt?

Your God, who knows all things past, present and future plants a tree, then blames Eve and the snake for getting Adam to eat.

He knew they would fail! He tricked them...if you believe the story.

Richie ... trust me no hands have grown back in Muslim countries...It just doesn't happen! If it happened once, it would be reported in every medical journal and newspaper throughout the world!

I would have thought in Muslim countries you would be more likely to lose a hand than to gain one..Quran 5:33 and 5:38. Some people who are against this barbaric treatment have even filmed it and placed the films on the web. It is horrendous!

You are believer, believe if you choose - but if God gave you an enquiring mind the least you should do is use it!

It doesn't take a lifetime of study or to be a genius to understand the Bible...that is rubbish! You just have to use the brain your alleged God gave you and study with an open mind!

If there is a God he will be ashamed that his followers teach him to be so horrid.

If you truly believe you had better get out of the rain...because even you, yes even you Richie, should understand if you stand in the rain you get wet.

If God exists he is so much more intelligent than religions teach!
Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 10:51:35 AM
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Dear Opiniated 2,
Are you the ONE the world has been waiting for . You sure seem confident that you know the past, present, and future.
Posted by Richie 10, Thursday, 16 April 2009 7:05:50 AM
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Richie 10,

I gather that was a tongue in cheek question but NO I am not the one you have been waiting for.

I just have problems that Christians on one hand believe that God created all things in the Universe but then also created some of the crazy laws in the Bible.

An intelligent all powerful God would never do so many ugly things.

Furthermore I don't believe that a God that was all powerful would be jealous, vindictive or vicious like the Bible portrays. Those are human traits not Godly.

I believe that people who teach such rubbish have little or no respect for God's intelligence, and, if God exists he/she/it would be very troubled that his followers would believe he was capable of such horrid things.

It seems to me that Atheists respect God more than his alleged followers because what his follower's teach is infantile, objectionable and blasphemous.

Atheists don't mention God...Christians make him look unintelligent.

Read the story of the plagues of Egypt carefully... Could your God deliberately & intentionally harden Pharaoh's heart so many times so that in the end GOD killed all the first born of Egypt?

If God hardened Pharaoh's heart then killed the innocent first-born of Egypt as the Bible says then that is NOT a God of love.

If God drowned all the innocent children with Noah's flood then that is NOT a God of love!

Simple stuff really!
Posted by Opinionated2, Thursday, 16 April 2009 11:34:25 AM
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Dear opiniated 2,
Do a study on lucifer,s character and you will find that the characteristics you atribute to God belong to him. Also sin can't enter the presence of God. What happens when you connect positive and negative.
Posted by Richie 10, Thursday, 16 April 2009 1:20:15 PM
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Richie,

I do not have to study Lucifer to know that is what he is supposedly like.

But let's discuss the Bible.

Either the Bible is wrong OR God killed the Egyptian first-born!

In Exodus 7:3 God allegedly says "And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt."

This loving caring alleged God pronounces that he will HARDEN PHARAOH'S HEART!

Is the Bible wrong?

If the Bible had stated that "The Devil" or "Lucifer" hardened Pharaoh's heart that may have made sense. According to all the Abrahamic religions the Devil would be that evil.

But worse The Bible repeats that God did it in Exodus 9:12, 10:20, 10:27, 11:10.

It can't be a typo!

God allegedly stated he would do it...What about the innocent Egyptian children when this happens? Surely this can't be correct?

Exodus 12:29 "And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt..."

According to the Bible Exodus Chapter 7 through to Chapter 12 expressly states that God did it, he allegedly planned it, and it was the culmination of this allegedly intelligent God's murderous plot!

I'm sorry, but I just can't see the most intelligent being in the Universe doing such a thing! Can you?

So please explain to me why do Churches "Celebrate the Passover"? What is to celebrate with such an ugly story?

This story in no way shows a loving, caring compassionate God does it?

How come everyone has gone quiet on this? Where are all the preachers who preach this stuff? Why won't Christians debate the problems with their book?
Posted by Opinionated2, Thursday, 16 April 2009 6:52:38 PM
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