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Is the Bible inerrant, infallible or God's word?

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Richie,

You seem to be standing on a soap box but failing your own belief system.

Answer my questions and I'll answer yours - to not do that means you fail "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Matthew 7:12

If there is a God he is the God of all things so he would be the God of the supernatural.

However, he isn't doing what the Bible says he does. So either the Bible is wrong OR God doesn't intervene the way you are saying. Why do you misrepresent God?

What should I say to you then other than ask "Why do you pretend God does the things he obviously doesn't?

Why are you so afraid to answer my questions?

Why are you so afraid to question the Bible?

Why do you spread fear by mentioning the lake of fire? Isn't that what you accused me of "spreading fear"? Are you such a hypocrite?

Why do you think that you are correct when you are obviously wrong? The Bible proves you wrong!

Why couldn't you heal me? Is it a sin to give "false hope"?

Until you answer these things you are just another Christian who cannot use "god's Gift" of an intelligent mind!

God, who knows all things past, present and future placed the tree of good and evil in full knowledge Adam and Eve would fail. If the devil exists he created him!

To pretend otherwise is just delusional?

If you are so full of the Holy Spirit answer my questions...you are failing your God badly!

My hope at the moment is that you answer one of my questions! OR become honest enough to say - I can't answer your questions - I just don't know!
Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 8:25:09 AM
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Dear Op 2.
1. God does not intervene on earth for it is satins domain, we have to ask. I doen't pretend that Gods does anything. Just because you havn't got your answer yet why doubt Gods word. Sin can't enter the presence of God 1 Cron 13:9 without getting zapped.
2. I am not afraid to question the bible but I happen to know it is true so my line of questioning is diferent from yours.
3. If the Lake of Fire causes you fear seak the truth for perfect Love casts out fear 1 John 4:18. Put your faith in Jesus.
4. It is up to God who gets healed not me. Jesus is the healer for by his stripes you were healed.Until you believe and fight the good
fight of faith you receive nothing from God.
5.The devil Lucifer was incharge of the choir in heaven. He was thrown
out for rebelion and decieved Eve into disobedience .Adam CHOSE to follow his mate and the rest is history.
I thank God we live under Grace for there but for the grace of God goes I. Gods grace is available to ALL, still your choice.
Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 10:10:17 AM
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Richie,

This is getting really silly and illogical.

1. OK, so then what you told me about the healings you fibbed. Either you are saying you do the healing (as God doesn't intervene) OR there can't be any healings as this is the Devil's domain.

Your answer disproves John 14:14 “You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it”!

I think you are getting very confused.

2. How can you know it is true if it is demonstrably false. I have shown you already that it is a seriously flawed document. See 1. You proved it with your answers!

3. The lake of fire cause me no fear whatsoever...it is you who is scared. Would a loving caring, compassionate, forgiving God create such a place?

Would that same God kill all the first-born of Egypt?

Again by saying that hell exists I believe YOU are showing God to be unintelligent!

4. Wow so now you can't heal people...and it is the person who is unwell who gets the blame for the lack of healing!

You have not shown me evidence of one healing that would be recognized by medicine, science and Christians as a miracle! Why doesn't God grow back amputees legs?

5. So in the most wonderful place ever, Heaven, Lucifer the choir master rebelled and was thrown out?

If God knows all things past, present and future, he knew, his actions of expelling Lucifer rather than killing him would ruin the perfect world he had created!

So God, in your argument is totally responsible for all sin, as he took the decisions that led to man failing. He knew we would fail!

So according to your argument by expelling the Devil your GOD, CHOSE TO CREATE SIN BY HIS OWN ACTIONS ! He knew the consequences or he isn't God.

Do you actually hear what you are saying? It is totally illogical!

The most supreme being ever, made some terrible choices OR the Bible is wrong!

Why do you sell an unintelligent God?
Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 11:19:08 AM
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Dear Op 2,
I will get real personal. 3 years ago I had a 2nd Stroke and the doctor said I wouldn't make through the night. I called on the name of the Lord and he raised me up contary to doctors opinions.
I asked the specialist what I could do to help my self. The answer I got was"nothing because it is in your genes and you are going to have another and you WILL DIE". Very good news like hell. I have always believed when the going gets rough the rough get going.
3 years on I am still here and still believing for a complete recovery
Yesterday on the Michael Parkenson show I listened to Kurt Douglass talking about his stroke and how he overcame. The race is not over till the finish. With God on your side you are a winner not a quitter
I have to fight my own Goliaths and you have to fight yours. I thank God daily that he is in my corner and helps me to say with confidence in my weekness he makes me strong and nothing is impossible with him.
Ps he isn't a fairy Godfather.
Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 3:50:30 PM
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Richie,

I am sorry to hear that you have had a stroke, if I had known that I wouldn't have debated with you. You are obviously fighting a great fight and whatever makes you strong is way more important than this discussion.

A few years back I had a near death experience after a severe car crash. It was the most amazing thing I have ever had and it changed my life.

I didn't see God and I definitely didn't get to meet satan (who I don't believe in anyway). After it, when I became relatively well again, I began a journey of discovery.

There is much more than we know, and there is something very special that we get to experience when it is our time.

Keep fighting the good fight Richie...You are doing brilliantly, especially after such a devastating illness as a stroke.

I wish you all the very best!
Posted by Opinionated2, Thursday, 23 April 2009 6:57:09 AM
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Dear Richie 10,

May your strokes be limited to strokes of affection from those who love you.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 23 April 2009 9:54:09 AM
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