Hello RObert,

I understand what you're saying.

But we're going to have to agree to disagree on this
issue.

What is needed at present is an injection into the
economy to prevent things from going down the gurgler.
I've heard on the news that in the US one town has an
unemployment rate of 25% and without the Obama bail-out
package it had been predicted to rise to 40%.

Of course we're going to have a debt - but at least
people will have jobs with the bail-out package.
Without it,where would the Government get the revenue from to
support the unemployed?

We need a bail-out at present to create jobs.
Tax cuts will not force job creation. It might
save some jobs but at present what is needed is an
injection into the economy to maintain what we have,
and to create more jobs. Economists from the
International Monetary Fund and the Reserve Bank
agree on this, as do business groups.

Anyway, we'll soon find out if the PM's on the right
track. Voters will be watching.

I think R0bert is absolutely right. Where there is project/infrastructure spending, watch it go to the marginal electorates. And the people who already earn the "big bucks" have the most influence over where money is spent and on what. Their primary considerations are not usually their workers, just their "bottom line".

Belly, I'm sorry, but this sniffs strongly of pork-barreling on a massive scale. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck ... you guessed it. I don't share your apparent faith in everyone playing fair here. They're making all the right noises, but most people I know will not be using any such largesse to increase personal spending, they will be using it to defray personal debt, and if that's the case then it will not achieve what it is claimed to be seeking to achieve.

Nicky

Since the Liberal Party has become little more than a shill for Big Business at its stupidest, I'd like to see the Liberal Party euthanised altogether so that a genuine conservative party can take its place.

Those small-l liberals not attracted to socially and culturally conservative principles and values could go to the Labor Party (itself heavily dominated by left-liberal types) or form their own minor party.

sorry Foxy but I was referring only to Turnbulls self damage
I however note the pork barreling charges, uninformed comment from people who do not understand the subject IMO.

“Since the Liberal Party has become little more than a shill for Big Business at its stupidest, I'd like to see the Liberal Party euthanised altogether so that a genuine conservative party can take its place.”

And the Labor Party isn’t just as much of a ‘shill’ for big business?

Efranke, what makes you think that the Libs are worse than the Labs in this regard?

Dear Ludwig,

Because its the Libs that want to give tax cuts
from which only the rich will benefit whereas
Labor is trying to inject money into the economy
from which all will benefit.

Libs are for supporting the rich and the powerful,
Labor is for equity.

Now these statements should stir things up a bit!