Col like it or not the polls are nearly always right.
Tell you what, its not vote buying, sorry Nicky but you are quite wrong Col is too.
Next election? get your money on now sure bet Rudd by an increased majority.
If both house dissolve? no independents in the senate.
Country party if lead by Barnaby Joice wins an extra Senate seat Libs down two, greens up one.
One day conservatives will return to power ,but first they must form policy's other than opposing every thing.
Say three more terms for Rudd?
Turnbull surely is too smart to continue this rot?

Dear Belly,

Is it self-damage if I agree with what you say?

Riiiight... We should look to talk back radio callers to solve this crisis...

Rudd has lost me. He says he wants to stimulate the economy, then incessantly talks it down and spews forth a hyperbole of panic at every opportunity.

In fact it could be argued that the very act of the handouts is panic generating. People are naturally saying 'Wow, things must be pretty bad if they have to do that!'. Are we heading for a recession based on a self fulfilling prophecy from Rudd?
Spewing money out of every orifice like he is is akin to some doomsdayer giving away all their posessions because there will be no tomorrow. Tax cuts would be far less scary to the electorate.

Belly “Col like it or not the polls are nearly always right.
Tell you what, its not vote buying, sorry Nicky but you are quite wrong Col is too.”

Like I said… whilst Krudd is out spending big… excising his little-man syndrome.

He will be little Mr Popular.

But when the bill comes in and he is increasing taxes, cutting services etc, left, right and centre, people will consider him and his cronies and ponder their options.

Belly, you can put whatever spin and call it what you like,….

Throwing money at parts of the electorate in the form of bribes is “vote buying” .

“form policy's other than opposing every thing”

Lets face it when we went to the last election

Krudd ran on the liberal party policy with his “Mee-Too” manifesto and promises to be all things to all men and enough dummies, who, having had it so good for so long, had forgotten how bad it was under Keating and bought into the lie.

Turnbull problem, is to separate the liberals from what Kev says versus what Kev does (and what kev says versus what Kev does displays a split personality but strangely, both of then inept)

And to make sure he maintains faith with conservative values which Kev tried to hijack in the name of “Mee-Too”

I anticipated when the creepy little sycophant got his hands on “power”, I would have a field day. It makes suffering the incompetence of socialism almost worth while (and I only said “almost”) .

Houellebecq puts it quite eloquently in a very graphic sort of way :- )

Tender choice of words Houellebecq “Spewing money out of every orifice”

I will add that to my list of OLO valid descriptions LOL
And the other point

Tax cuts are expected…. They were expected under Keating in notorious “they are written in L – A – W” but were rescinded by the lying pallbearer.

But if Krudd dares mess with the tax cuts the electorate are fully aware of and expecting

He will be signing his political death warrant.

I'm still not sure about tax cuts. With tax cuts the
Government has less revenue and therefore will be
less able to financially assist public projects,
such as schools and hospitals providing needed jobs.

Tax cuts for big business will guarantee them
sustainable profits but it will not necessarily guarantee
jobs for their employees in a market geared for unemployment.

Why should a builder undertake more work when by laying off
staff and gaining a tax cut he can make the same profit?
Especially when there is no more money in the development
industry to hire builders.

Whereas the Government's bail out package would be pumping
in money to create essential projects to hire builders.

In my view tax cuts would increase unemployment.

Foxy increased borrowings means more interest repayments which means less money long term for other things. The impact of either tax cuts or handouts is about the size of the package not ncessarily an either or scenario.

A builder who can reduce costs through tax cuts rather than laying off staff retains the same capacity to do work but at a lower cost which means that the customers wanting to have something built by someone who also expects to have a little more in their pocket long term through reduced taxes and may be more able to afford that project than they otherwise would be.

The real difference is that those who make the money get to decide what's important and a percentage of government handling costs (and maybe some pork barrelling) is cut from the equation.

R0bert