ROFL alleged farmer, now we have a hobby farmer with a few pet
Wiltshires and Shropshires, claiming to know about farming :)

Now these prime lambs, fattened on lucerne, were going to be
sold to the live trade in July. Umm, in that time a prime lamb
can be taken from 0-24 kg cwt and sold for 90-100$ to the
American carcass trade for 100 bucks, forget the 50$ live trade!
You are clearly confused :)

Even this week, fattened prime lambs in Victoria for local slaughter
were making 80-100$, so why would anyone sell them to the
live trade for 50$? Sorry, but you can only fool some of the people
some of the time.

The lambs that you saw were most likely not what you claim, but
in fact Damaras and Dorpers from WA. Yes WA sends a few of
them, simply because lambs values here are far below ES prices.
Farmers are not fools, they adjust to market circumstances.

http://www.wellardgroup.com.au/media_centre/media_releases.phtml

will tell you a bit about that live trade that you claim is cruel.

http://www.liveexportcare.com/index.html

will answer some more questions, which you as as an mla levy
payer should know all about, given that even WA meat processors
are on the MLA board and support the trade.

Meatworks closed in WA were clapped out Govt run, out of
date monstrosities, which happened 20 years ago. Do you
still drive a 1920s car? Learn from NZ please.

It maybe best to stick to that pension and housework :)

Nicky I would really appreciate a reply

Regards

Antje

Yabby......'even this week fattened prime lambs for local slaughter were making $80-100..'

You keep forgetting to source your information. source your information.

Farmer I think he's trying to get you banned.

Thankyou Holyshadow for your comment. Yabby, my family on both sides has been in farming for hundreds of years. I chose to give up the Merinos due to theft of sheep, the heavy maintenance required, the difficulty in getting a shearer. I chose WH because there is no shearing or crutching at all. I investigated Darmara and Dorper, and decided against both; 1) Damara due to the fact they do much better in a warmer climate such as WA, also they are unable to cope with too much wet grass which can cause problems with the gut. My area does have or used to have very heavy rainfall, once we had 9 inches in one night, hence the town down the hill was flooded. That was quite some time ago. 2)Dorper, because they can develop footrot when in a wet environment for any lengthy period of time. I have spoken to and visited Studs of both these breeds. The Wiltshire Horn and Shropshire are seasonal breeders, ewes coming into season in Autumn. Therefore lambs dropping generally from 1 Aug on. They are behind other lambs by about 3-4 months. Other farmers in my area who have merinos, have lambs dropping in early May, some late April. The WH lamb is not ready for market until at least late Feb early March due to the shedding of the wool. Any earlier and the loose wool clogs up the machines at the abattoirs. The WH also does not like rounding up by a dog. They are naturally aggressive towards dogs/foxes same as the Damara. The WH is an easy care maintenance sheep. Regardless of all of the above, I still will not send my sheep/lambs live export. The sheep I was referring to in my previous post were not Damara or Dorper, or even remotely anything like a Damara/Dorper X. They were Merino X and the one being thrown from the truck was a WH or WH X. I do not have to prove my credentials to you Yabby in any way. Which is what you seem to be aiming for. Farmer

Yabby, with regard to all of your assumptions, which are totally incorrect. I can only feel sorry for you, that you must resort to such negative karma. From what you have said, about myself, I can only guess, that you do not wish a farmer to be posting comments against live export. Your knowledge of the live export industry especially WA, could lead me to believe you are a farmer in WA or a person very heavily involved in the live export industry and you wish to discredit others or myself for speaking out about it. It is a cruel industry, if it was not so cruel, then animal groups would have nothing to complain about. Where there is smoke there is fire. I hope you can begin to comment more on what the thread is about rather than trying to discredit others. Yabby, you have no idea how many times I have communicated with Livecorp making suggestions for better transport. You have absolutely no idea. I want to see live export from Australia the best in the world and I have said this to all concerned in government, Livecorp and MLA. I hope you have a nice weekend Yabby, because I am going to regardless of what you have said about me. Farmer

Farmer, Yabby is targeting you it would seem, believing you to be someone else.

I would hazard a guess its someone he has been instruemental in having banned previuosly, because by the way he talks he makes assumptions, based on his own foolish predjudice about her too, like he does everyone else on here.

This forum is all but come to a stop from what i can see..but how does it help when people like him try to drive out new posters.?

Yabby is a real asset and has a lot of commentary based on Ill 'baffle you with bullsh1t' theory and if that doesnt work..look 'hey look at me , I can do cartwheels too'....