Live Animal Export Trade is not a new problem.

Despite the fact millions of dollars have been raised, little towards finding an alternative has happend.

We need to find alternatives.

What makes it more viable to export live instead of in a box after slaughter.?

Why are we not doing more?

Animal Welfare Groups and RSPCA are strongly opposed to this cruel trade.

The following was released from Andrew Bartletts Office yesterday who has long called for this cruel trade to be banned.

Live Export suspension Must Be A Catalyst for Change

Democrat Animal Welfare spokesperson, Senator Andrew Bartlett has called for a rethink of the live export trade in the wake of Israel’s suspension of live sheep imports from Australia due to health concerns.

“This is the latest in a long line of problems with Australia’s live export trade and it is way past time that this inhumane practice was ended,” Senator Bartlett said.

“It is another reminder why the federal government should stop propping up such a problematic and troubled industry and take steps to phase it out.

“If the government is concerned about the livelihood of farmers and jobs in Australia it should be doing more to expand the frozen carcass and processed meat trade.

“Economically it makes more sense to value add to a product and create jobs here rather than having ship load after ship load of animals rejected and trade suspended due to the poor health of livestock.

“Live exports are unnecessarily cruel to the animals shipped abroad and their poor treatment and substandard living conditions are well documented.

“The Minister’s version of events about this latest incident should also be taken with a grain of salt, given the long history of cover-ups, deceit and denials when it comes to the live exports trade.

“The trade must be phased out sooner rather than later. The government should focus on ensuring the viable alternatives are ready to pick up the slack,” Senator Bartlett concluded

"This thread is to invite Input from posters as to what can be done towards a solution'

This is a long topic question as all on this forum mostly are.

Just a point here. On other forums when you go in to post a reply, underneath the reply box, is the topic question repeated so that you dont lose your train of thought when answering, most topics have a few points of reference that needs answering.You are able to refer back to topic you are replying and so give the topic question your best possible reply.

A point to consider.As this topic looks complex, it would be very useful when posting replies.

The Live export problem in this country needs exactly this kind of attention, to bring it to the consciuosness of the average punter.

All animal welfare groups need to support each other and band together and stop wasting time on infighting and serving their own interests and political gain . Unity and cohesiveness is what is required to finally get some progress made on relieving suffering for the animals who are subject to this practice.

The time is long past..every day we waste only contributes to more needless suffering for animals subject to Live Exports.

Great to see this new and welcome thread and well done, People Against Live Exports.
I think that this trade exists to a large extent because these importing countries have in place false tariff barriers on frozen/processed meat in order to keep the "downstream processing" (and therefore the jobs and income) in those countries. Warren Truss and his predecessor Mark Vaile have much to answer for
It certainly has nothing to do with religious or cultural sensitivities. In all the investigation footage I have seen, there is no pretence of religious observance (and Australia exports animals to Cathoilic countries as well). The Qu'ran states that animals must not be treated cruelly (yes, we have seen that, animals piled on top of one another, legs trussed, the eyes of cattle stabbed and their leg tendons slashed), they must not be slaughtered within sight of one another, and the knife must be razor sharp (in the footage, throats are sawed at until they bleed).
I am absolutely furious that my tax dollars are spent on propping up this atrocious trade, and if it MUST happen, I would prefer that they be spent on expanding the local processing sector.
This trade exists because of greed. Farmers were happy to see meat workers' jobs disappear along with abattoirs for an extra couple of dollars a head. Now they are paying the price as a result of the drought - and it serves them right. And they shouldn't come "crying poor" for extra handouts because of it either.
Nicky

"This trade exists because of greed. Farmers were happy to see meat workers' jobs disappear along with abattoirs for an extra couple of dollars a head. Now they are paying the price as a result of the drought - and it serves them right. And they shouldn't come "crying poor" for extra handouts because of it either.
Nicky "

Thanks for the insulting comments Nicky. The trade actually exists
because it seems to be beyond city Australians, to take a sheep from
the farmgate to the warf and market it efficiently enough, to
actually pay farmers a fair return. Perhaps you would like them
for free?

I remind you of the present situation. A sheep exported live is
worth three times more to a farmer then one sold through meatworks.

If you call making a living to feed the family greedy, then
clearly you must be included!

Once again Australian city slickers have failed, when benchmarked
in global terms, unlike Aussie farmers. Shame on you.

Hello Yabby
"Failed the benchmark" - I would suggest that farmers do that themselves, if they cannot "make a living to feed their family". Most people in business have to compete in their environment (without constant tax breaks and handouts) while meeting certain community standards of ethics and morals. Not so the live export industry. It responds to no-one's standards but its own (BTW - wharf has a "H"). That industry sends countless animals on appalling journeys on third world ships (almost all are 25 years old and more) to face handling and slaughter practices that they are protected from in this country.
Take the latest catastrophe of the "Maysora", a ship with a lengthy history of welfare issues. An unknown number of calves (but certainly moe than 500) have just died, between on the "Maysora" and in Israeli feedlots, whilst its cargo of sheep was rejected by that country, and later landed in Jordan. The Australian government has just "accredited" certain slaughterhouses in Egypt, most notably Bassetin, where shocking atrocities have been proven a number of times, in the full knowledge that nothing can or will be done about it. Sorry, but if the cap fits...
And please don't include me - I do not buy animal products, and I would much prefer that animals were not "farmed" at all - at least until they are accorded the same legislative and practical protection that "companion" animals are.
Nicky

Nicky, of course I will include you, as you are yet another ill
informed city slicker, passing arrogant judgment about subjects
which you don't seem to know a great deal about.

City Australians are good at selling each other houses, or flipping
the odd big Mac for each other. In terms of the global economy,
you would not even have bananas to sell! Thank country Australians
for your good fortune, its not you who is creating wealth. What do
you do to create export Dollars, to pay our debt to the rest of
the world?

Benchmark Australian farmers against EU, US or NZ farmers and
we look pretty good. Do the same for city Australia and your ability
to value add our products and you fail miserably. I remind you that
in the early 90s, farmers were giving away truck loads of sheep,
as it was easier then to shoot them. City Australia had failed yet
once again!

In economic terms, our best option is really to bypass you completely
and simply put our products on a boat, do the rest offshore, as
you are that hopeless at what you are meant to do.

Yes, 6 sheep that were sent to Israel had scabby mouth. Now what?
Big deal.

Shame on you Nicky, for being so arrogant and so ill informed