sorry old chaps, caught up in a maelstrom of mail and problem's [sic] from those I help [ie not well of [sic]]. Possibly bogans but more often cafe lattes

Will get back to Wanda ASAP, but watch them maelstroms yo all here [sic]

"But what if we had a true work for the SS scheme?"

Ah, mate; this has been my contention for years.

We all know that a) the published unemployment figures are a complete crock and b) continued lack of work breeds self-contempt and an underclass (Bogans?) that is separate from the mainstream.

I've expressed my ideas time and time again on this forum about this and no-one has ever paid any attention.

But unemployed people could be brought into the mainstream in so many ways: those from different cultures could visit schools to introduce that culture, those with skills could conduct classes (cooking, welding, child-minding, remedial reading, carpentry, art), collectives could be formed, child-minding and play-groups formed...I've gone into it all in detail before so I don't want to repeat myself.

None of this however will ever happen while the current method of getting people to make decisions FOR us instead of WITH us is so entrenched.

p.s. (DD in the spirit of sharing knowledge you might like to know that "sic" basically means "as it was written". It's used when we are quoting someone else and they have made an error or used a term we do not agree with It clarifies that it's their error/idea and not ours.)

I WAS quoting another [but not sure if bogan or (uneducated) cafe latte], per:

"Romany's story is one that hits center target, such people make policy's [sic] and are my life's enemy's in fact.
No easy answers exist, but is the safety net SS helping in its present form?
We all know story's of people being unfairly taken of [sic] it, and yes we all know of people who should not be on it."

quite apart from ending sentence in a proposition - lol

Romany,
I wonder if the problem is more complex than simply getting people to work.
I would suggest that 'bogan (underclass)' is more a combination of many things.
As belly rightly said how do you motive the deeply unmotivated, those who BELIEVE that they are discriminated against or BELIEVE they aren't getting a fair shake.
Much of their US against them has more to do with the environment in which they're raised. SS is often all they know and from this come the innate belief that they have the right to it even if they have to lie. After all they see corruption every day and how people profit from it.
Additionally THEY don't perceive themselves as anything but average and that others are snobs or worse. In is inculcated resentment that seems to feed their anti social behaviours.
The solution, I dunno I look to others to make the spark (thread). I only hope it comes soon as history has shown when this underclass gets angry enough societies have problems …LA riots over Rodney King. The riots at the Sydney Beaches et al

p.s. (DD in the spirit of sharing knowledge you might like to know that "sic" basically means "as it was written". It's used when we are quoting someone else and they have made an error or used a term we do not agree with It clarifies that it's their error/idea and not ours.)

It's also a good way of putting people down by pointing out their errors to all, parading your intellectual superiority, and conflating the errors in their spelling with supposed errors in their argument. I think it has no place on an informal forum. Nobody likes a pedant. I excuse some who are from a journalistic background. To some extent. Actually I don't really.

"the errors in their spelling with supposed errors in their argument."
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once again I was just doing it in a subtle way [which I did not really expect cafe latte's [sic] to pick up upon].

I am on a huge number of forums, mostly conversing with amurikins [God bless em] and there is a most marked decline [a maelstrom as the OP would say?] in the dexterity of basic English usage, AND the most frequent are dog's = dogs, there = their [and vice versa] your = you're, of = off and to = too

It is way to [sic] prevalent to not be simply "as teached" in schools, ie passed down from teacher to pupil.

So we come to yet another boring [but disguised as a maelstrom problem] thread where as well as jesus, mary and that ghost bloke getting a run, SS and "better schooling for bogans" always comes up.

So I was flabbergasted [yes flabbergasted] to see that one of those administering the Holier Than Thou tut-tut to the bogan peasants was in fact bogan like [by her OWN defn of a bogan]

so back to my throne and remember yo all, no sinning, do yo all here [sic]