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The Forum > General Discussion > I don't know what a "Bogan" is but I know where they are.

I don't know what a "Bogan" is but I know where they are.

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Divorce Doctor have a little self control please.
Your posts have been a bit weird from the time I rebutted you.
Like others I am lost trying to understand what they are about.
I am not going to get into a childlike verbal stone throwing match with you.
I said it before, I am totally unconcerned what you think, rarely do I write another human being of, I rarely change my mind once I have.
If you want to play verbal tennis find another opponent.
And it may be worth your while getting a racket with some strings.
Call me Bogan, Oca, anything you like but if you wish to hurt? call me snob.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 9 January 2009 5:26:30 AM
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TurnRightThenLeft, DD.
Both you seem to have missed my point. Read the question THAT is the point add to that the obvious what do we do about it.
What is in a name, I agree the name is merely means of opening a discussion on the plight of an increasing number of people. If you like the question could have been “how do we re-establish equity and motivation for all citizens.” But that sounded too esoteric and people would have demanded definitions which would have destroyed the purpose. I wanted to get people to think about the inequity and its effects and as stated what to do about it.
DD, I get that you don’t like my prose… sorry about that. I think the issue is way more important than my Dickensian literary style.
The example given was to show an attitude a tangible disregard for others particularly the sick. Years on the front line in crisis intervention I’ve learned to question why more people are inclined to display antisocial attitudes (behave as having chips on their shoulders). Yes every area and demographic has problems. But it is undeniable (see local police stats) that there are concentrations in certain areas. Not too far from where I live an estate ‘nick named the Gaza Strip’ which has 14X more police call outs than surrounding areas…Why? This is clearly not good, more importantly what can we do about it.
Clearly I don’t like pigeon holing of people and problems as that tends to ignore because fixing them is too hard, too expensive and doesn't involve enough votes. Historically this is something we as a society we do at our peril.
I wonder why the criticism of the minutia, the messenger or my wording. I ask that you concentrate on the donut not the hole
Posted by examinator, Friday, 9 January 2009 7:24:31 AM
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Examinator,

Thanks for bringing up this thread - I think it is an important issue and was glad to see it getting an airing.

However, I don't think we're getting any further now - the last couple of pages have not advanced any particular theories.

As others have said, you initiate some great discussions. See you on the next one.
Posted by Romany, Friday, 9 January 2009 8:54:05 AM
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"DD, I get that you don’t like my prose… sorry about that. I think the issue is way more important than my Dickensian literary style.
The example given was to show an attitude a tangible disregard for others particularly the sick."

No worries old chap, and congratulations as it seems you will get your funding [from us the taxpayer] to survey bogans [but I get the impression from the mod with the nod it may be sanitised away from your Dickensian lingo to "Do we really know the truth about Gen-B?"

I realise your chosen path in life is to bleed the taxpayer dry as one more quango/NGO, but as the greatest of all white collar crooks Miles Massey says, "that's his job, we must respect that", so I hope you respect my self appointed job as a whistle blower.

as said before I am like that Columbo bloke so like a dog with a bone till pieces all fit, so "oh just one more thing OP" .. why WERE you FORCED to be in bogan city if you despise and verbally abuse bogans?

and just what abuse was visited upon you [apart from a few fvcks flying around the ward]. Surely your mummy told you to put your pinkies in your ears
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Friday, 9 January 2009 1:45:03 PM
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DD,
Just a few points of clarification.
First point, it was an emergency and internal health department transfers from the local hospital that put me in that hospital not by choice.
Secondly The violence that took place was more than the odd obscene word it was a tirade of violent language and behaviour in the other one case a man belted a female…I don’t know about you to me this is more than some obscure PC breach.
Thirdly I was bloody sick the hospital was monitoring me on an hourly basis while pumping massive doses of antibiotics. Because of the acute infection an emergency operation would have been life threatening, ICU which was full.
To most people a ward in a hospital is hardly the place to express one’s antisocial violent tendencies.
You obviously missed my concern/intention was to address a serious social issues NOT my discomfort. I am only interested in genuine practical solutions
Fourthly my experience on the front line dealing with crisis intervention the current problems are both intergenerational and increasing.
Next I am from this same resentful catastrophe prone background and have chosen to use my professional privileges/power to try and minimumize the issues that hold others back. I left school at 16 and over a lifetime I’ve put myself through Uni and Tafe to gain my doubled major degree and an advanced diploma.
NB None of this makes me superior or a saint but it does render me as qualified to comment and strive for solutions.
I’m not sure if my ability to explain is here or perhaps you have a personal agenda (chip on your shoulder). I would suggest that this site is a chat site not one for resolving personal issues or ill informed ad hominem attacks. I try to take everyone at face value and I rarely confuse public and private interest. I would suggest you follow more than one post before you lash out.
Posted by examinator, Saturday, 10 January 2009 7:27:59 AM
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examinator the thread was a good one thanks, doubt we can give it another life but you could try again in another thread.
We do need to look for answers, not worth progressing the DD thing I am unable to find a reason for all that anger.
thanks well done.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 10 January 2009 4:16:17 PM
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