Welcome back, examinator!

"Clearly the current approach isn't working having 'no go' or anti social concentrated suburbs in today's 1st world cities is both obscene and a potential time bomb."

I agree on the 'time bomb' description. Such a situation though is the logical outcome after decades of free market economics and the huge disparity in wealth that has resulted.

Gated communities are the flip side of the same coin and to my mind are equally if not more obscene than the 'no-go' suburbs you're referring to here.

Bogan City, by the way (for those from other states), is a well-known disparaging reference to the outer Brisbane suburb of Logan City.

Foxy

LOL

Pelican,
Back at end of jan for the op...can I hide at your place? :-)

Meredith,
The big issue in my mind is that none of their traits are exclusive to the 'bogan' as they are clearly observable accross the social range of societal classes one wonders why all the negative SEEM so extreme and and concentrated.
i.e. I witnessed an individual smack his partner outside the ward their words " Made them do it (sic)because they the partner couldn't accept that (the smackee's) random sex was with in the past"
The implications are horrendous.
One regular visitor about 14 was a unfunny toxic version of "Jake" on '2 and a half men' hit (with intent)his mother (she too was feral)the language you can imagine(in the ward).
The sad thing is that boy has a poor future it is the countless others that make schools in the area more like war zones (feed back from a special ed teacher in the area with 14 years local experience.
Even the private schools' students are known for their violence and antisocial behaviour.

Hi,
bogans are everywhere nowadays, and they don't need to be specified, once you see them you know whom we are talking about, indeed the lowest of the low. Thirty years ago people did respect one each other, the police was respected, so were teachers.
We could talk for hours, and not getting anywhere. Fact is, it is getting worse, and my personal opinion on it would be, that parents have lost the picture of what it means to be parenting. It can be beautiful, but at times stressful as well. If you love your children, give them a proper education and strict standards, but are "man" enough to apologize to them, if yourself do wrong.
Today we are only blaming others, and no one is taking responsibilities anymore. We have forgotten to ask ourselves whether we have done things right or wrong. Labor or Liberals, who cares? Won't make a difference at all. Bogans around in your area? Move away or use a big stick, but then you will face a judge, who will tell you that you have no rights at all, but to look away. And with a bit of bad luck, you will be belted by teenagers, using broken glass bottles or their baseball tools.
Our country is going faster downhill as the Titanic was sinking, and
explain to me how you ever will get up from the bottem of the ocean with so many looseres steering this society? Taking responsibility, unfortunately, is not our Aussie thing.
cheers m2catter

I'll tell you a story about fear of boganism.This is related from a friend of a friend.A woman who had a divorce decided to go on a holiday to New York.One day she was in the lift in her hotel two big black guys got in and one said,"Hit the ground lady."With that instruction she immediately laid on the lift floor face down.The two men apologised and explained they wanted to go to the ground floor.
Out of embarassment she dared not look them in the eye.

Upon leaving and about to pay her bill,she found that it all had been paid.The attendant said,"Wil Smith thought that this was the funnist thing he'd had seen in a long while and paid your bill."
Had the roles been rerversed,would it have been that funny?

Arjay,
That tale was reported as actually happened to the ageing Mum of an Adelaide TV personality (whose name escapes me at the moment.) in LA in the 1980's. She was in the lift with three tall Black men, one of who said hit the floor...she hesitated he repeated .........etc the star was Eddy Murphy. It was all over the Adelaide media at the time. Funny though!

CJ Morgan
I didn't give my definition as I wanted to get people to give me their definitions, why and possible alternative solutions. It's the why and the solutions

Brony,
Got it in One.

All,
Civilizations based on hierarchy have and/will always have seemingly under classes and areas. History has shown that it is when these under classes reach a critical point the society is in trouble.

Usually these under classes tend to be made up of the dispossessed, demoralized and those but not always the lower end of the social or intellectual scale. It is often these who are the most reactionary and least understanding of differences. We have one striking example of this cultural ‘paranoia’ on this site yet the individual is not an intellectual dunce. The desperation of their situation (in their minds) is such that they tend to react in varying degrees of violence be they statements like “Only a dunderhead can’t see that (MY opinion) is ……. “Through to “you made me (sic) hit you because (you don’t do what I want)….

If we simply offer up vague pigeonholing labels and then explain their predicament in terms of our perspective, ideology, religion, dogma I ask how are we any better and what does it say for the ultimate disintegration of our society?

Chew on that :-|

The title of this thread reminds me this quote from the Sex Pistols song "Anarchy in the UK"

"I don't know what I want but I know how to get it".