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Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 9 November 2008 5:42:57 AM
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So ok Belly, you don’t want to answer my question so let’s get one thing strait.
I don’t hate farmers What I do hate is ANYONE who accepts assistance from the greater community, then, once they are back on their feet they sell to the highest bidder. I say again, take a look at the banana farmers in far nth QLD and see how well off some became once they had got back on their feet. Some made millions yet I will bet they have not re-paid a single cent to the battlers that supported them and went without because they could not afford $14/ kilo + for what is essentially a staple food. Pro surfers are another prime example, although I am generalising again. Here are a bunch of very highly paid individuals who in most cases have achieved their levels of brilliance because THEY DID NOT WORK! Have they repaid the money they fleeced from their years on the dole I wonder! And finally, I understand your comments on the last few weeks are crucial for meat quality in lambs, so why bother if all you intend to do is throw them on an over crowded ship. Care to answer this one or will you just cast this aside as well? For the record Back in the early 90’s, before live export became huge, sheep meat in AUS was a huge industry. I used to bone about 200 sheep a week. I paid 90c kg or $16 each on average. The topsides went to kebab shops, the back straps to Chinese restaurants and the balance to pie shops or sausages. Today, sheep cost around $3 per kilo, or $54 each due to lack of numbers. Boning them is no longer viable due to lack of numbers. Today entire boning rooms lay dormant, many from small towns that relied on this as their only real source of work for their communities yet, if we stopped live export there is a chance these plants could re-open. What a boost this would be for these towns hey. Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 9 November 2008 7:05:00 AM
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Yabby wrote, "... I remind you that WA is a State dominated by farming and mining. You down there with the city slickers, depend on us in the regions to generate your wealth."
I think he's got you there, Dickie. You are wrong to doubt the word of a man who is selflessly carrying the rest of us on his back. We "city slickers" are all collectively responsible for the mess that this country into and which Yabby and his mining mates are now getting us out of. Unlike Yabby, we "city slickers" all voted for Howard and Costello and cheered all the way as their policies blew out our current account deficit and domestic debt and as they ramped up the rate of immigration. Take it from me, and get behind Yabby, who knows better than rest of us what is good for this country: Property speculation, landlordism, destruction of unions, privatisation, endless expansion of our mineral export industry and limitless immigration. Posted by daggett, Sunday, 9 November 2008 12:24:02 PM
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Rehctub, let me point out again, that what Qld banana growers do
receive, has absolutaly nothing to do with WA sheep growers. I was not even aware that they received payment, I don't follow Qld issues much. Who paid them and why? I know that if WA growers face calamity, like a major frost for instance, they wear it, no subisidies. You, being in Qld, have more in common with Qld banana growers then I have. One of my neighoburs just lost 2000 acres of wheat due to frost in September. Result is 600'000$ of losses, every cent worn by him. Next question, nope, we don't worry about muscle glycogen levels in sheep that go on boats, but the shippers do. Most sheep gain weight on the boats, so they are basically floating feedlots. Next point. There is no shortage of sheep to bone out in Australia. You can buy them in WA for 1$ a kg. If there is a shortage in your region, its not due to boats, but due to people getting out of the sheep industry, due to lack of profitability. Having boning rooms in Qld, when the surplus sheep are in WA, does not really solve anything. We are thousands of km from you. So move your boning room to WA where the sheep are, or have them slaughtered here and trucked East. Your call really. Dagget, interesting that you know more about me then I do, claiming all sorts of things that I have never claimed. Given your consipiracy theories about 911, over which I had a great chuckle, there is a bird on the Gold Coast who believes in as many consipiracy theories as you do, called Gertude. Perhaps you should chat her up :) Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 9 November 2008 2:31:18 PM
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Yabby,
If I have misrepresented your views, then why not set the record straight? And why just chuckle quietly to yourself about my wacky views about September 11 terrorist attacks? Why not join in and show everyone why I am wrong at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=0#49535 ? We're all ears, Yabby. Posted by daggett, Sunday, 9 November 2008 2:41:34 PM
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Hey Daggett
That was good whupping you gave the hill-der-beast who's done more damage to this nation than the prickly pear, cane toads and half a dozen Cyclone Tracys. He's vandalised our good name, sadistically violated the rights of our animals and across our wide brown land, spewed a massive load of unmitigated swill. You'll find him in the lavatory now quacking like an aggrieved duck composing his next smartarse missive for his return for not even a truck load of explosives will remove him from our presence! Cheerio! Posted by dickie, Sunday, 9 November 2008 9:34:22 PM
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Let me whip out my crystal ball so I can tell you all....
Ar a message from the spirit of three letters and two words
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death gutless.