"WA is very much a cash cow for the rest of Australia. With
10% of the population, we generate around 50% of exports" and 75% of unspeakable cruelty.

Can we export (return) you to the Motherland? We'll pay the dangerous goods' levy for contaminated cargo. You're not welcome here!

points quickly before turning to USA, however lets not stray from MLA 'too far ah Yabbs. You want FACTs about MLA 'Your on'.

Yabby said =

*The critical point in a lamb is the last two weeks..* It depends on what the lamb ate, how tough its life was.
Posted by Yabby, *

Yabby umm how tough its life wa ah< ever heard of stress making meat tough? Mind you I bet you and MLA don’t teach THAT in your EDUCATION classes DO they?
Nor about the lack of checks for Anthrax +other diseases. I always said you lot will start a war. Lets face it you’ve come close to that several times.

Posted by rehctub,=

*Why should we prop up your farms in tough times when on the one hand you except our ‘hand outs’ while at the same time take the easy option of ‘live exporting’ knowing full well that your actions are creating meat shortages in our (your) country which in turn forces the very ones who provide the assistance for your farms to pay excessive prices at times?

Care to justify this?*

Perfect’ How true is this man. Well Yabby we are waiting. Care to justify it?

Posted by countryperson, =

*Oh and another thing, I don’t know anybody who sells their fat lambs for live export in our area, they have to be a certain weight (above average) and unfortunately we can never get them that fat....how on earth is live exporting the easy way out?*

Country person perhaps that was an unfortunate choice of words – was it?
What do you mean unfortunately?
Are you saying you approve of live exports? Pls note I don’t rubbish farmers.

Nicky Dicky pls tell Animal Angels and others the farm is for ALL to use as a base to track loads of cattle throughout Australia.
(I am sure it will be mind blowing.)

(Thanks for passing that around)

And now Yabbs lets return to your beloved MLA and also the part USA plays in Live Animal Exports through free trade and trade.

You little Beauty!

God Bless America

You buy a kilo of prime Aussie beef
more cheaply in Japan than in Australia.

Gaint giant supermarket chains make a
112% mark-up.

US, producer gets between 43% and 49%.
Australia`s = much less.

In other words, our supply chain is fundamentally flawed'' Thanks largely to Kerry Packer imo and our Governments.

Presently, the cattle producer gets 25%.

US, however, the split is more like 47%

to farmer, 20% transport, processing and

33% to retailer.

Live-weight kilo of beef costs $1.68
at the farm gate in Australia says the ABA,
compared with $2.10 in the US and $2.98 in the UK

*By the time a kilo of sirloin retails in Australia, however, it is fetching $28, compared with $13.82 in the US and $34 in the UK.*

Australian mince is almost double the price of US or UK.

*What happens in between the farm and the supermarket check-out?*

Here one answer as an example-
Japan imports meat from Australia, Australia doesn't export it. ''We breed, grow, feed, slaughter, pack, chill and deliver to the wharf at a cost of $5.50,'' says Economou. ''If you look at the export price you get a figure of $5.50 a kilo FOB (free on board)''

Then the Japanese ship it home. The Government whacks a 38% impost on the product for watching the containers go across the wharf - so the beef is now worth another $2.09 a kilo.

That's $2.09 clean for the Japanese Government

Between the wharf and the retail outlet the steak rises to $10 to $50 a kilo.

The problem with the Australian market lies in the power the duopoly wields over meat processing. The farmers sell to the processors but the supermarkets have not encouraged any reinvestment in processing efficiency.

*MLA WONT encourage new players or greater efficiencies.*

We are still using 30-year old processing equipment here,

The last thing (Coles and Woolworths) want is a large independent supplier who can supply the independents at a reasonable price.

* If you make the investment they screw you out of the market''.*

Oopsy daisy Dickie dear. I remind you that WA is a State dominated
by farming and mining. You down there with the city slickers,
depend on us in the regions to generate your wealth.

If farming and mining are not your scene, you are clearly living
in the wrong State.

Perhaps it would be far simpler to ship you out and let farmers
and miners get on with baling out the rest of Australia from
their failing current account deficit, for others clearly don't
have it in them to do it and compete globally as we do.

Without us, its an Australian banana republic and the Aussie
peso, here we come.

Lets we forget

The Tracker Dogs

Today as we stop to pay our respect, lets not forget, the others who died for us.

I wear with pride, and sorrow, as well as some anger the Remberance Vietnam 18 badge.
Eleven black Labrador dogs were used in Vietnam by the Australian Task Force as the core of Combat trackers teams that were developed from 1967 until the last combat troop troops left in 1971.
Cassius, Janus, Trajan, Tiber, Julian, Juno, Justin, Caesar, Marcian, Marcus and milo were arguably the most popular contributors to the Australian war effort in Vietnam.

A close attachment formed between animal and handler and having to part with their dogs at the end of their tours was often the hardest thing the dog handlers had to face.

You see because of the Australian Governments usual lack of compassion and wanting to save a quid rather than pay for flights and proper quarantine the handlers had to shoot their own dogs.
Like the thousand of horses before them.

Lets we forget them and their heart broken handlers.

But they are not forgotten.

Yabbs, Cat got your tongue? Thought you wanted to debate MLA America.

You got it right the first time when you said

* It was sheer unionbloody mindedness that drove those cattle onto boats*
Posted by Yabby,
Farmers and Miners working together pardon=
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2008/768/39602

Ok guys, I`m off to the bush.

Couldn’t buy get gravel water etc… Too busy delivering to mines! To bother with farmers.
Have to truck it hundreds of miles should I sue Ms Wrong the water Minister:) what do you reckon.



rehctub hope you stick around. Dreamt last night you were the PM and Lyn White your helper.. You guys put Yabby and members of parliament on a ship to ME. (Pity I woke .)
One for the road=
*Rehctub=

*I could sell 300 lambs per day, …….. I will come out making a fortune…….. *Perhaps some butchers need to join up with farmers.*

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