Wow Dickie, thank you! I was not aware that you attributed to
me, such amazing powers!

Daggett, given that I don't give a flying fxxxk what you think,
why should I bother to set any records straight? As you have
proven in your last couple of posts on threads where I participate,
you have little interest in the topic, but clearly you have a chip
on your shoulder, for I still piss you off and you want to pick
a fight over totally unrelated issues.

Frankly, the way I see it is this: In between all the other things
that I do, I have some limited time to participate on OLO and I do
it purely for fun. There are some posters for whom I have a high
regard and I thoroughly enjoy reading their gems. There are some
posters with whom I agree to disagree and its still fun.

Then we have what I classify as the whacko posters and IMHO some
of them have a screw loose. The religious nuts, the conspiracy
theorists, etc.

Now if you want to believe in your conspiracy theories about 911,
hey go right ahead. If Gibo and runner want to believe in their
religious theories, ok, whatever. If Gertrude wants to believe
in her conspiracy theories about MLA and Elders etc, great for
her. Frankly its not worth my time, to even bother. I have a great
deal more in common with the more intelligent posters on OLO, who
actually make some kind of sense.

Meantime, I wish you and Gertrude or you and Dickie, every happiness
together :)

Quack quack!

Yabby wrote, "Frankly its not worth my time, to even bother (with 9/11 conspiracy theories)."

But aren't you the one who raised the subject?

Daggett, you are absolutely right. We all should understand that none of the rest of us makes a contribution to the economy. Without Yabby - as he so often reminds us (ad nauseum - must've heard the quote somewhere and liked it) Australia would be a banana republic.

The rest of us, including rehctub, who work in other sectors so we can continually bail out farmers if it's wet, it's dry, it's hot or it's cold in order to throw tax dollars at the Yabbys of the world are sadly misguided. But we can't have them having to pull the ferals out of their yuppie schools and not being to upgrade to next year's SUV, now can we?

But how apt Dickie's analogy is. Well done, guys! Just not sure where "moron" is coming from though. He/she is a new one on me.

Nicky

Actually, Nicky, I think farmers (as opposed to hole-diggers) are one of the very few sectors of our society who create wealth. Practically everyone else on the planet, including myself, is either directly engaged in the liquidation of humankind's capital or deriving their income indirectly from that.

And even most farmers are doing little better than mining our soil, rather than genuinely sustainably creating wealth from nature's interest (i.e. sunlight and soil, created from rock at the rate of about about a few inches per century). The only truly sustainable agricultural systems in the world are some terraced and paddy field systems such as exist in the Andes and parts of Asia, where all matter extracted from the soil, including human waste containing essential phosphorous, is returned to the soil. Every other form of agriculture practised by humankind, and most likely what is practised by Yabby, has resulted in the destruction of soil and collapse of civilisations after centuries at most.

Human history has largely been a sequence of cycles in which agricultural civilisations grown in size and populations until the soil has been destroyed and can no longer sustain the populations. The populations then collapse until centuries later the soil has recovered and the cycle starts anew. I read this in David Montgomery's "Dirt - The Erosion of Civilisations" (2007), which I cannot recommend too highly. It is roughly 245 pages long and gives a brilliant, highly readable overview of agriculturaI practices on every continent throughout history right up to the present day. It should be available soon in paperback.

Even if Yabby practises sustainable agriculture rather than soil-mining, which I very much doubt, I don't see how this gives him the right to judge the rest of us.

The choice of being able to farm the soil for ourselves has been taken away from us over the centuries through the theft of commonly owned land by greedy elites.

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An example of this process is the story of the Diggers who asserted their right to farm commonly owned land together for the good of all, but were brutally crushed by Cromwell's army in 1649. (See "The Song of the Diggers" at http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=D3-uw1dAjY0 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jpNdLxTSoII&feature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KKLbj6oMiaI (Billy Bragg version)) This has happened many times before and many times since right up to this very day.

Consequently, most of humankind are left with no choice but to work for others in sweat-shop conditions conditions in order to be able to eat and obtain shelter.

Howard's "Work Choices", which which Yabby, no doubt, supported, was an attempt to make Third World slave labour conditions the norm in Australia.

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Yes, I thought Yabby's previous post was hilarious too, Dickie.

Yabby objects to how daggett has described his sociopathic political belief system, but won't take that opportunity to set the record straight. I think others may be entitled to assume that daggget was spot on.

If Yabby were to decide, however, to set the record straight, I would have little difficulty finding plenty of his own words he would need to swallow.