*Karma is alive and well. *

Nothing to do with Karma lol, just accept the laws of nature, which
was my original point, something that Nicky denied. So horses don't
breed in the outback as she claimed?

*Mother Nature is objecting to your abuses.*

Mother nature is acting just like we expect, perhaps you should
go back to Darwin's Origin of Species and learn about evolution
theory for yourself, something which you clearly don't understand.

*Yabby is equally abusive and that doesn't help his cause either, it makes him look like the typical male chauvinist who really has little of substance to argue with.*

Alexandra, Yabby gives back what is dished out, but of course your
bias does not seem to matter to you. Nobody throws more insults
on the animal welfare threads then Dickie, but you ignore all that,
as I would expect.

I can sink to anybody's level lol, including to posters on here.

Meantime, the intellectual points of my arguments clearly go above
your head, as you choose to follow feelgood emotional reactions.
A course in emotional intelligence, might do you some good.

Pale

Your MOUs with the Muslims are an abject failure. Why don't your Muslim friends have influence over governments in their birth countries - the barbarians? Have they sent them OUR footage on the atrocities committed on OUR animals in THEIR abattoirs? If so, what legislative measures have they implemented to prevent these atrocities occurring? Have these "compassionate" Australian Muslims asked these governments to cease importing animals from Australia?

They smile at you behind their veils Pale. I say dump 'em girl.

Dickie - "Would that be a "Yes" or a "No" Cowboy?”

Your continual reference to Australian Cattlemen as cowboys is wrong. Cowboys are found in the U.S.A., and Canada, Vaqueros in Argentina and Stockmen in Australia. But then you never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Dickie – “When will you be loading these lovely ewes and lambs on the ships of death? I'll come down to Freo to bid them cheerio and what do you look like?”

Lambs and ewes to the Middle East. Things must have changed. In my day the lambs went to Perth for local consumption and ewes were kept as breeding stock. Only wethers were sent to the Middle East.

Dickie – “I've been very busy commenting on international animal welfare threads and alerting citizens overseas to the atrocities inflicted on Australian livestock.”

I would imagine that the readers of your biased unsubstantiated ramblings will be absolutely riveted by what you have to say.

Nicky – “Yabby, what you people fail to realize is that there are hundreds - no, thousands of people like Dickie and me, telling the world what goes on in the Australian livestock industries, and everyone who reads what we say gets a little bit wiser.”

Thousands of you out of a population of 23 million! You’re wrong when you say “that everyone who reads what we say gets a little bit wiser.” Apart from the very small minority who might think you are telling the truth, the majority would silently just laugh at what you say.

Unfortunately you two see yourselves as “crusaders” for animal rights. In fact if you were dinkum, you would see that you do animal rights a great disservice by the way you carry on, on forums like this. People who are genuine about the good they do are not splashing their names all over forums around the world and big noting themselves like you two do and criticising people who disagree with you surreal philosophies and your agenda. That’s what makes the dickie and nicky road show a laughing stock.

Dickey
It just so happens they actually passed a motion to go to congress to lobby against live exports at the last meeting. That more than George Pell has done.Dont worry Dickie we have had our beef ups over the years .
Then we get on with it.

Hugh causing lots of problems without a clue what he was doing. Mind you OMOP hes just a monkey for the Government.

Well if he keeps playing games outside his areas he might just get himself burnt badly.
He might end up with more than pretend blood on his shirt. Come on Dicky the mans had over 20 years to do something? Now hes heading the Handle with care with NO Objection from the others. Think really hard about what I am saying??
I have the honour of speaking with you which I really appreciated. I know your not silly.
WHY are the others not screaming from the roof tops about Hugh being in charge?
Dickey myopinion is correct regarding his comment of attacking each other farmers andMuslims.
It is counter productive to the animals and I am just as guilty of replying to nicky in anger.
Its just been so hard on pale being black listed. If you dont know anything else. please know we are doing what we feel is the only way to stop live exports.
I would also like to thank you for your work for animals. If you see our favouite girl around Lyn White pls give her our blessings.
Goodnight.

myopinion, said=

Apart from the very small minority who might think you are telling the truth, the majority would silently just laugh at what you say.

pale comments.

I think most people would understand the utter frustration of having seen far too much cruelty without anything happening depite the ferrorts of many TBO.
To work within Animal Welfare industry you must be unselfish.

To see what you see on a daily basis and not have the power to stop it.

To feel the utter injustise and watch the low life Government reps bend to the call of the political donations .


While I stand alone in a different corner for the same reasons I totally understand why these girls loose it from time to time.

How you learn to hate people the more you see.

How many nights can people lay awake being haunted by what they know and see.

I hate all cruel people be they in ME or here. Now lets face it shall we Australia sends them there. So that makes US the guilty ones.

To say there is nothing wrong with this barbaric trade shows you have no morals what so ever.

It also shows you have no concern as to raw materials leaving a country 'before value adding.

That makes you just as stupid as our Goverment- who btw have just given another 8 to 12 million to support this cruelty. SHAME ON TONY BURKE and Kevin Rudd.

Its a total discrace just like anybody who doesnt get off their arse to find alternatives.

Come on farmers take some leadership and get yourselves on a plane to ME to deal direct and reopen plants.

PALE in regard to my comment "Apart from the very small minority who might think you are telling the truth, the majority would silently just laugh at what you say."

This was aimed squarely at the nicky and dickie road show. As someone who has managed people on two continents, I can assure you that you will get more from people in ideas and effort by offering encouragement, than you ever will by being obnoxious, arrogant and trying to force you will on people. The latter is the style of the nicky and dickie road show.

Approximately 20 years ago a wealthy businessman bought a former abattoir in W.A. His intention was to turn it into a small abattoir, processing plant and cannery for Halal mutton and beef, predominantly mutton. After approaching the then State Government, which gave verbal approval he then approached the Malaysian and Singaporean governments. Representatives from both governments looked at the plan and gave their approval and commitment. This abattoir and cannery would have sold most of it’s product into Malaysia and the rest into Singapore. It would have employed approximately 45 people full time and would have helped local farmers who were then battling high interest rates from the Hawke/Keating era.

This businessman applied for the approval through the local shire, but due to some petty jealousy’s amongst some of the councillors the planning approval was knocked back. An appeal to the Minister for Local Government didn’t get passed as the Minister didn’t want to overturn the Shire Council’s decision.

This would have probably been the first Halal abattoir in W.A. if it had gone ahead. This businessman saw the long term need to value add to stock. This is fact and not hearsay as I knew this businessman very well.

As a former farmer I am not against the live export trade but I am against cruelty to animals. A government will not stop the live export trade because of its value to the economy. Unless alternatives are found, the live export trade will continue. That I can assure you.