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meat prices and value for money

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Hi all
Sorry for not getting back sooner, I am constrained by a badly sprained ankle which is making walking almost impossible.

Yabby, I have no argument about endocrinology and its role in human nature, only with your attitude in the form of attributing every comment which happens to disagree with the (more "intellectually capable") male point of view (yours) as in some way silly or ill-informed because one happens to be female. I should point out that my partner does not suffer from your presumed hormonal disorder of being female but subscribes to my views expressed here.

I don't buy meat (other than bones for my dogs for which I go to a butcher but (with all due respect) I hate the smell), but in principle I prefer to buy at "small businesses" whom the supermarkets are trying to drive out of business altogether (newspapers and magazines at newsagents, etc). Once we are all at the total mercy of supermarkets, I feel that we will regret it. I think it is the supermarkets who are forcing businesses like rehctub to trade on Easter Saturday too, if he/she happens to be in a shopping centre. A pharmacist friend in a large shopping centre in NSW, where I live, is forced to trade when Myer/Coles/Woolworths in the Centre do, yet another, in a small local "strip" centre doesn't. He is not given a choice, he tells me.

I think I said earlier in this thread that my partner used to buy pork rib bones (and they are only bones) for $1.99 per kilo at supermarkets, now they are selling the same thing as "barbecue pork ribs" - for $10.49 per kilo. Hence my trips to the butcher - even when the supermarkets discount the above (it's the principle). The area near where I live and where the nearest supermarkets are is really one of terrible socio-economic disadvantage, but the supermarkets there are more expensive than the same in other locations. Go figure!

I hope everyone is having a better Easter than I am!
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Friday, 21 March 2008 6:26:24 PM
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Well Nicky, I've been mixing concrete, main thing is that the
job is progressing. All the chocolate eggs and bunnies are long
gone :)

If your partner is informed about endocrinology then that is great.
But many men are smart enough to simply agree with their females alot
of the time, to stay in the good books, as it helps the sex life :)

I make points of reason, you are free to dispute them. Men will
admit that testosterone influences their behaviour. Similarly,
females are affected by female hormones. Many females have strong
mothering instincts which go well past any children. Pets, strays,
farm livestock, even boyfriends. So why should I not mention that?

If you happen to have money in a super fund, then its highly likely
that you too are one of the owners of Coles or Woolies. If you look
at their share registery, their top 20 shareholders are mostly
super funds. Its the same with banks.

As to pork ribs going up in price, they are actually pretty popular
amongst the Asian community. Butchers/supermarkets buy whole
carcasses and divide them up. Its really customers who decide what
they are prepared to pay for each cut. Their return for the whole
carcass is what matters in the end.

As Rehctub points out, its rising distribution costs that are the
problem, not the wholesale cost of meat. All those fees and charges,
overtime, workers comp, superannuation, holiday pay, rent and other
shopping centre fees, etc, are what is driving food prices up.

Belly tells us that workers should receive 15% super. Well that
has to be passed on and it is passed on to other workers in terms
of rising costs of food and other items. One person's pay rise is
another person's expense.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 21 March 2008 9:26:44 PM
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Hi again all
Yabby, once again I have no argument about hormones and effects, but I do think that you should prove them to be relevant to an argument before you use them. usually to the detriment of an opposing argument when you have no better one to advance. You could be right about my super fund (I should inform myself better than that, I know. It's a hormone thing, my partner knows all about that; my only concern is that it is what is known as an "ethical" fund. Since he doesn't work, I figure he has more time to get his head around that stuff).

I cannot imagine what the Asian community does with pork rib bones with nothing on them, but perhaps rehctub can provide some enlightenment.

At the risk of playing into the hands of certain contributors, I shall point out that that this is where the local meat processing sector and the live export industry are not even close to competing on a "level playing field" - but we've been there before, so I'll leave it at that.

Good luck with the concrete; don't get stuck!
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Friday, 21 March 2008 10:33:15 PM
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rehctub,
you said=

WoW' How clever is this guy. Mr Hetheton
This has been going on for 20 years. .

He was not interested in my explaination when I told him I paid $8.50 Kg wholesale.

I will await the outcome.

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/rrat_ctte/meat_marketing/tor.htm
pale comments-

rehctub,

Well if anybody ought to know about this its good old uncle Bill.
They cant be serious giving him a role in anyway in this.
I will look more cloely at the terms of reference later but anybody who is the the slighest familar would understand you nobody be giving evidence while certain people are still around.

As for Bill hes been involved with sheep farming for many years. Mind you he prefers the cruel live export trade while sitting on the animal welfare board for god sake.

So there you have it folks Old Billy the kid the sheep farmer live exporter of sheep Animal Welfare board heads now has access to your statements at an enquiry into meat rorts.

You work it out.

Did anybody for shaved lamb?
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Friday, 21 March 2008 11:04:27 PM
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apologies



The Question was= Anybody for shaved lamb ?
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 22 March 2008 12:26:37 AM
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Yabby said

Many females have strong
mothering instincts which go well past any children. Pets, strays,
farm livestock, even boyfriends. So why should I not mention that?

pale comments.

Speaking of mutton dressed up as lamb how our Yabbs going.

No indeed dont get stuck in the concrete you have many places to travel yet in your next chapter The adventures of Yabby.

I am sure you are aware that Nicky has already said she does not have kids nor I so dont know where you get your theory from.

Now its a bit embaressing reading all these comments nobody has mentioned Nicky ankle so thought I should say something like.

Gee it must be difficult considering your used to putting your foot in it:)

So from All of us at pale Nicky
Break A leg!

( Sorry Yabby Couldnt resist.)

Just kidding Nicky thats an awful thing to happen to anybody at Easter especially.

Hope it heals soon
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 22 March 2008 1:06:46 AM
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