....................you guys really don't like being questioned do you?

.............sigh,..er, Belly.., what I was referring to was the plethora of subjects on the man/woman status currently on OLO, and specifically the strong opinions expressed.

I referred to that as a 'war'. IN QUOTE. (I KNOW it's not a war!). I never even suggested there was a war against me!

You may not have liked my response on another thread, but I never picked you as being petty.

The definition of not very bright has come with some expertise, and has a wide application...

rehctub, back to your original question, my family buys it's meat from a local butcher based on quality, although I'm sure we would shop elsewhere if we felt we were being ripped off ie. if the higher prices were not justified.
The butcher shop is a vertical integration of the owners feedlot, and I think the consistancy of the product is a major selling point. Quality meat and quality service are hard to go past.

Ginx, missed your last comment on Australia day-farmers, sorry. Archive is closed now.
If you could pass on my email to Les and Mazz I'd be happy to discuss water allocations with them. rojo84_10@hotmail.com

*but I think attributing any criticisms to gender or hormonal issues is just a little inappropriate and narrow minded.*

Hang on, why is it inappropriate? I remind you that endocrinology
is a very important part of both medicine and neuroscience.

Fact is that hormones affect behaviour and if you ignore this
important field, when analysing human behaviour, then you are
kidding yourself and argue from a point of ignorance, rather
then narrow mindedness.

I refuse to accept you attempt at censorship Nicky!

Are you trying to deny that hormones affect human behaviour?

Ginx
First this

I'll leave you 'boys' to deal with the toxic meat theory.
Posted by Ginx, Saturday, 15 March 2008 3:57:57 PM

Thank god for that I said to myself

Then this
Well, I tell you what, I'll leave you to your male bonding.

It's become a little embarrassing anyway
Posted by Ginx, Sunday, 16 March 2008 10:29:37 PM

But wait there’s more…..

It’s obvious you wont go away so I will try to convince you why meat can be an affordable food item for almost evryone.

Firstly, you must buy your meat, along with any other food items at prices that are within your budget. You can buy many meat items that are less than $8 per kilo, this makes them less than $2 per serve. Like it or not, what matters is how much a meat portion costs not how much per kilo it is. 150 to 300 grams of raw meat is considered a reasonable serve. Even your nutritional experts will back this up.

Of cause if you are one of the many who smoke, drink or gamble in excess, or have that comfy lounge complete with the plasma TV, all on the ‘buy now and worry about it latter’ deal, then perhaps it’s your spending habits that deprive you from your much wanted nutritional meat meals.

If so, please don’t blame someone else for your ‘self-inflicted’ state of poverty.

If not, I would be more than happy to provide you with several 'meat buying tips' to help you through your tough times.

Yabby
As for butchers being kept honnest. Check your supermarket prices and compare them with your butcher. As for the 700% comment, mate, go back and read my thread.

Also, the next time you buy bread rolls at 55cents each, remember a baker gets 13 bread rolls from the same amount of dough for 1 loaf of bread. This is where the term 'a bakers dozen' came from!

Cheers

p.s. Ginx, my offer is always open.
What can I say, you're growing on me!

Rehctub, I actually quoted from your statement.

The point is that its competition that keeps the market
honest, not butchers with a kind heart.

That is why we have such a distorted market in WA,
ie lack of competition.

The problem with food is that if you examine things over
time, (50 years), food has become relatively cheaper and
cheaper, compared to say average wages.

Yet the gap between the farmgate price and what the consumer
pays, has become larger and larger, as everyone passes on their
costs, except of course, the grower, who lands up with the
rough end of the proverbial pineapple.

We have now reached a point in agriculture, where many have
had enough, are selling off their land for other uses and are
getting out of producing food. Land is going for tree farms,
hobby farms, houses, you name it, it has a higher value as
farmers quit en masse and I don't blame them. They have been
screwed once too often.

I had to laugh, WA is short of milk now, so they are screaming
for new milk farmers. Yet only a few months ago, rather then
increase the miserable milk price paid in WA, which has been
well below the ES price, they were trucking in milk from SA!

The meat industry is much the same in WA. Our prices are well
below Eastern States prices. Processors can virtually do as
they please. Now they are amazed that farmers are selling off
livestock en masse and growing more crops. It might well yet
bite them in the arse :)

You butchers need competition and supermarkets do a great job
in keeping you honest.

Ginx, missed your last comment on Australia day-farmers, sorry. Archive is closed now.
If you could pass on my email to Les and Mazz I'd be happy to discuss water allocations with them. rojo84_10@hotmail.com
Posted by rojo, Monday, 17 March 2008 1:16:52 PM

I will pass your e-add to Les. I don't know if he will respond. We lost Mazz you see. At least he passed over doing what he loved, but the spirit had gone out of him. He was found in the paddock slumped over the wheel of the tractor. Massive heart attack. Kick rrr's upstairs Mazza!
________________

....OK. Rector's. It's an uphill grind with you.

(I'll leave you 'boys' to deal with the toxic meat theory.
Posted by Ginx, Saturday, 15 March 2008 3:57:57 PM)

...Nicky's view about red meat was that it was not good for us. OK?
THAT (Brownie's Honour), is what I meant. Yo' lot bein' de' experts an' all. YOU address that issue.

Then Belly said a little something about me. I responded to him NOT you.

But..,but, I do like tips!! (I knew about the bread thing;-I've been making my own bread for a long whiley).

Put up the tips, I doubt you can enlighten me on anything-I mean that-I have learned most of 'em, but they can help others.

He's one for you: Mince is usually sold in a plastic bags-yes? If making meat-loaf or rissoles, add the ingredients to the mince INTO the bag. Scrunch the top together, squeezing most of the air out;- hold top with one hand, knead the ingredients together with the other. If feeling semi-comatose with fatigue, snip a corner of the bag and squeeze blob's into your cassy dish. Cover with a pasta sauce and bake. "Lazy Slob's Meat Blob's"!!

Anyway,....the bag tip is good?!