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Accountability in Government?

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"Can I ask those who post to please focus on the issues at hand and that is the complaint handling process that has been designed by the system."

All systems are open to corruption. However, the levels of complaint and appeal available to you - ending with the Ombudsman, empowered to investigate governmental corruption - is pretty extensive. It seems unlikely each layer is involved in the same conspiracy. To prove that it is, you'll need the clear evidence you keep saying you have. Having not seen it, I can't comment. But good luck to you.
Posted by Vanilla, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 11:51:12 AM
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Dear Jolanda,

I must admit that after reading and re-reading all these posts - you are beginning to sound slightly obsessive (putting it politely). You just keep repeating the same things over and over again - you don't answer the questions - with evidence - as I said you just keep repeating yourself. I think that you need counseling - and I am concrned for your children. Listen to the advice Vanilla is giving you - it's sound.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 3:02:48 PM
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Vanilla the Ombudsman is not empowered to investigate corruption. The Ombudsman is there to take notes and write reports and to help discredit complainants. Take a look at the Ombudsman’s website and have a look at the annual reports and see how many matters were investigated. Less than 1%. The Ombudsman role is to provide a higher level of cover up, the fact that there is no oversight of the Ombudsman’s functions allows the Ombudsman to do whatever he likes.

What part of the fact that the Ombudsman decided to use his discretion and not investigate the matter do you struggle with? He is not required or obligated to investigate anything. What part of the fact that the Ombudsman denied my family impartial and unbiased decisions do you not understand. The Ombudsman reviewed our matter twice when formal complaints were made against him with regard to how he dealt with the complaint in the first instance and we alleged a conspiracy to cover up.

Just because those in the system do not act on complaints doesn't mean that there isn't any evidence. You can believe whatever you want but the fact is that formal allegations of bias and misconduct should be subject to a proper and fair investigation especially when they involve children. This covering up of allegations and complaitns is happening in Education, in Health, in DOCS and in every other Government Department.

Proper and fair investigating of complaints and allegations is what is required to ensure that our Government doesn’t further corrupt and so that the people are protected.

I explained that I am not going to focus on what happened at school or anything else except the way that the DET and the Government have handled the complaints. That is the issue at hand.
Posted by Jolanda, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 6:11:57 PM
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Jolanda

It seems clear that there is no evidence that you claim you have.
It seems that you are the one sprending rumours and doing the victimising.

Show your evidence or cease your lies.

Its obvious why you've been labelled a vexatious correspondent.

post your evidence or cease your lies.
Posted by Annoyed Parent, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 7:38:32 PM
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Annoyed parent why don't you tell me exactly what you want to see and I will post it.

Be very specific so that we know where we stand. I don't want to post only to be told that it wasn't what you meant or it wasn't enough.

You give me the guidelines, whilst considering the work involved, and I will provide on my blog. It may take a couple of days because I work full time and also have 4 kids to feed and take care of, a house to keep and a small business to look after and run. The scanner is in my eldest daughters room who is doing Year 12 and generally she is studing during the time that I would be able to use it, so I need to find a couple of hours where her scanner/computer is spare. The process of uploading the documents is very slow so on the basis of that, if I know exactly what it will take for you to believe me, then I will post what you say.
Posted by Jolanda, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 9:22:39 PM
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Dear Jolanda,

You started this thread seeking the opinions of your OLO posters of this Forum. It seems to me that you've received a substantial response, however you're not prepared to pay any attention to what you're being advised.

You may not like the way that you and your children have been treated - you're convinced that every body is discriminating against you and your children - from their class mates, teachers, schools, the Department of Education, the Government, and the Ombusdman.
Everbody. And you say that the issue of the matter is - you don't like it. You don't like the way your case has been handled - by everyone.

I think your lawyers are the only people that will win out of your case. It will end up costing you a fortune to continue to pursue the matter.

The Ombudsman is well within their right to decline a complaint on the grounds of, for example, that it was frivolous, vexatious, misconceived, or lacking in substance.

You can of course make a request in writing for the matter to be referred to the Anti-Discrimination Tribunal for a public hearing.
And then if you don't like their decision - you can make an appeal against Tribunal decisions to the Supreme Court, but only on a point of law.

I wonder how your children will fit into any educational system after all this comes to a close? Where will they feel they are not being
discriminated against in the future? Who apart from their mother will they ever feel they can trust? These are just some questions that you should consider before you continue on your way.

If the issue at hand concerns the protection of your children - who's going to protect them from you - and what you're doing to them?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 9:32:12 PM
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