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Accountability in Government?

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Annoyed parent. Yes I do believe that the Department organised the victimisation of my children including the witch hunt when they tried to label my son as a bully.

My children, Aboriginal children - What is the difference. They are all children. What I am comparing is the Governments failure to address complaints in relation to the mistreatment of children. When you are treated with disdain, when you are victimised and denied your rights it impacts your state of mind.

PALE. When I wrote a complaint about the Ombudsman to the Office of the Ombudsman and Police Integrity Commission about the fact that the Ombudsman had not been fair in his dealings with my family they advised us that under the Ombudsman’s ACt Section 31B(2) that they were prohibited from asking questions about 'particular conduct' and that they therefore couldn’t' help my family. The second time I wrote to them as I had clear evidence of a conspiracy to cover up they said that they do not have the power to do anything.

The failure of people in positions to act makes it appear that we don't have a case, when in reality the problem is that the system is set up to protect criminals. The whole idea is to discredit the complainant and it certainly works.

CJMorgan. Don't be so sure mate. I went to the local member and he said that there should be a report on the investigation if the Department is indicating that the matter was investigated. The local member wrote to the Department who just replied and said the matter was closed. The local member then wrote to me and said that he couldn't help me. Everybody says that they do not have the power. So the power is obviously with the accused.

In July 2007 I requested under FOI the investigation report. To date no documents have been produced. There has never been an investigation and I know because it is clearly set out in documents I received under FOI. All there has been is a cover up all the way to the top.
Posted by Jolanda, Friday, 22 February 2008 6:08:54 PM
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Pelican. Thank you for your concern. I do not let this matter consume my life. What people do not seem to understand is that my children have been targeted over many years and not just one child, my four children have been targeted. Two are in year 12 this year. We have clear evidence that their test marks are being manipulated. If it was your children - would you just let it go and tell your children to cop it sweet.

With the benefit of hindsight back in the Year 2000 when I made complaints about the education of my children, if I knew then what know now, I wouldn't have said a word. But you see I believed them when they said that if you have any concerns to let them know. They lied. I would have taken my children out and homeschooled them. Unfortunately you cannot turn back time.

Vanilla a quick overview is that my children are very highly gifted. They suffered alot at school as they were extremely advanced. In the year 200O I made some public complaints about the neglect of their education, so in order to discredit me, the DET have been manipulating my childrens test scores and school applications, bullying and victimising my children and spreading lies about me so that my children present not as smart as what I say that they are and me as a crazy pushy parent.

WE have an alarming amount of evidence to support our claims that the DET.
Posted by Jolanda, Friday, 22 February 2008 6:16:07 PM
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I stand to be corrected but Jolanda,s children are Aboriginal, so why the strange question?
And the issue is purely a NSW one little to do with Rudd
ICAC the NSW watch dog is investigating some from my party, and like it or not I am quite happy they are, try them Jolanda.
Your claims if true are work for the Independent Commission into what ever and Corruption.
Good advice that about whistle blowing take it from me.
You Will Not Win.
Strange as it may sound the person who took this whistle blowers job, mine can tell you too.
No friend of mine he at first stood against me.
Now he thinks as I do, fought and lost every fight I did.
And those who steal, cover up, sell contracts, survive.
Stay focused Jolanda anger or heat will only defeat you, after a while the white wash includes a coat of mud and in time honest men will see only your anger not the truth
best regards
Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 February 2008 6:23:33 PM
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Dear Jolanda,

I wish you strength to keep going. You're a brave lady.
It can't be easy doing what you're doing. It takes a lot of
perseverance, work, and just plain guts - to keep going after
you hit a brick wall - so many times.

I don't know if this will help but I looked up this site on the web:
www.nswombudsman.nsw.gov.au/aboutus/legislation.html - 30k -

It outlines the powers that the Ombudsman has - what it can and can't do and why.

Again - stay strong, and my good wishes go with you.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 22 February 2008 6:42:34 PM
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Jolanda

Sorry my question was directed to Annoyed Parent. I of course know your children are 'not aboriginal so let’s move on.
I think if you are to give people a clear view as you ‘should’ mention their background just in case their is some type of discrimination to do with that. Also it is not clear to people from this that this has already been to court.
Perhaps it may help if you posted the courts finding on that hearing however that is up to you of course.

As it’s already been to court it might help if you posted the documents of support to your claim the marks were tampered with
It can’t hurt your case because it’s done with- All Over

DEMO’s advice was good and I know others have advised you for years to just move so I won’t keep repeating that advice although you know I fear for your home etc.

The effect on the children and in particular your son who got to the stage her did could not even go to school eventually which to me is a even bigger worry.
I can try to help you with your first question if that helps. You said=

I recently made formal allegations against the Ombudsman of a conspiracy
I sent a copy of a letter to the Premier Mr. Morris Iemma etc

They said
Ombudsman is an independent office created by statute and is responsible directly to Parliament.
The Ombudsman is overseen by a Joint Parliamentary Committee, which monitors and reviews the exercise of the Ombudsman’s functions.

You said=
The first paragraph really confused me. I thought that the Government was Parliament?

Pale
The best way to explain this is to give you an example of different Ombudsman and their duties.

Next post, out of space space
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Friday, 22 February 2008 8:18:36 PM
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Jolanda “I recently made formal allegations against the Ombudsman of a conspiracy to cover up allegations”

That is a bit like complaining to the board of Enron about the conduct of Andersens.

For myself, I find the extent and level of authority of local, state and federal government exceeds all levels needed to ensure an effective community.

I would observe, the only defense to corruption in public office is to limit the size of the opportunity.

“Smaller government” across the board is a better option which will reduce both the opportunity and the magnitude of bureaucratic incompetence, inefficiency and corruption.

We do need government for defense, law enforcement, water, as an arbiter / maintainer of checks and balances, as well as authors of statute but everything else is discretionary.

We have a plural education system, plural health system, private run prisons.

We do not need ports, banks, airlines, car insurance, ship yards run by government bureaucrats and civil servants, those things can be done by private interests supplying competitive services funded by their client/users, rather than tied services funded by third party tax payers.

Even the water authorities of Victoria have been raped of their finances by the state government “special dividend”. This is where the water charges paid by town and city water consumers are diverted into the general funds of the state, to be squandered on whatever indulgence the government wishes to pursue; instead of being used to fund new infrastructure needs, as the charges were intended for.

Jolanda, an allegation against a government department, supplying monopoly services is always going to be tougher than an allegation against a private organization, competing for recognition and needing to be aware of the voice of public criticism.
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 22 February 2008 10:21:31 PM
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