Jolanda said to pale

Pale- did this person sign their name ...
Palereplies

Jolanda why are you asking ‘me ' these questions. You were made aware of this by myself only out of much consideration to all sides.

You saw the letter. You already know the answer to this question.
I mean that would have to be major evidence in your favor if a retired Head School master wrote something to discredit you.

Then you would have some 'real proof'- Surely that would be the case- would it not?

If that were me I would have had it up on my site for the whole world to see as an example of how people have treated you unfairly and may I use the term target you and your family.

Instead you choose not to post it- not to address it= and really it’s beyond the pale you ask myself if there was a name on it.

You already know the Answer to that question and the name had a PD on it.

Jolanda quite honestly over years I have tried to help you and I know you will not like me saying this but the ‘truth’ is I have had second thoughts on and off.

The reason I have had second thoughts was by 'your' reactions and responses to offered assistance.

I have kept an eye out over the years when I see your many posts go up and often worried about your children. I think they may be something wrong.

Yes I think the department is slack because they should have checked how these children were going year’s ago by Medico Legal Physicists report.

At least then it would give the department a clear idea if your kids are being abused at school and where their problems mostly lie.

In fact had they been my children that are the FIRST thing I would have done both to gain help for my children and obtain credible evidence to use against who ever.

This method is used by the courts everyday.

I did suggest this to you some time back.

Jolanda Dave here I sympathise with your predicament but is it truly the Ombudsman himself or one of the front desks that have stopped you as I have been fighting DoCS for removing my son nearly 11years ago I have had every representation made on my behalf but the lies just keep rolling out my son has not even received an education he is indigenious & yes the Rudd government can intervene as to the past Howard government as the Federal Gov is responsible for the indigenious also the Fed Gov is responsible for the welfare of all the people all the time but it is pas the buck back & forward while innocent child are the ones who are hurt I could go on forever about the corruption & cover ups but once a Gov Dept is wrong you will find that it is continued attack against yourself until it gets all tangled anyway if you want to contact direct my e-mail address is graysond49@yahoo.com I would be happy to answer any questions direct as to any other that is reading
God Bless all may your Lord shine on you all well
Dave

Hi Jolanda, Hi everyone.

You sing this same song I do. The difference is that you are for unknown reason to me focus on some issues on school children and you Jolanda have not explained me that well. Perhaps it does not matter at all as I initially said. The government in general is negligent and all wrong it happens in our society (I like the most your description of this - Jolanda) it is because we, cannot make decision makers accountable for their decisions. The rest is only the consequence.

What you do, is discuss details of just one aspect of the injustice or government irresponsibility. I do not want to interfere with your discussion but can only add that perhaps when you generalise your issues to: there is no justice, no accountability, therefore whole range of problems proliferate. Our children suffer and also whole society.

I propose to the government the first step in improving the government accountability/proffessionality.

To establish 1800 number open 24/7 for non emergency complaints. Ooperators would notice on database all complaints and someone from public service would be assigned to solve this. All entries be accessible on internet but no identities be allowed (just a code). Than the complainant, and opposition, and the journalists would be able to see the complaint and the result. Let's say it is about the bully problem at particular school, than it would be easily verifiable if was fixed or not. Or if the complaint was a pothole on particular road, it would be easily verifiable. Same with barking dogs or hoon driving loudly in specific area. This way, we society would gain the means to complain and to expect problem solved. There would be a record of all complaints and this way government be seen as doing nothing (large number of not fixed complaints), or large number solved complaints. We would have a feeling that we get the answers (job done) for the money we pay (taxes and charges).

My children are very severely disadvantaged by the government choice and nobody takes any responsibility. It is antisocial system.

PALE. I don't remember what that email said and yes I would like a copy please. Nobody calles themselves a Matron. How can an email from some stranger have any weight about anything. I have ample emails from persons in the Department that have their name where they are accusing me of all sorts of things and nobody takes any notice. Why would an email from a stranger make a difference?

Just with regard to putting the evidence on my blog. I had it there, for ages and it didn't make a difference as nobody was really interested in reading it. People seemed to prefer to just blame me or open discussions by saying that they haven't really read what is on my blog. I took it off when we received documents under FOI that clearly showed a conspiracy to cover up and we wrote to the Department as I thought that that would mean that they would investigate and I really didn't want to have all that on my blog as too many names are mentioned. I thought that for sure they would have to investigate the matter so I took the documents off in anticipation. My complaints were again filed away. I didn't realise that when I put my post back to draft that all the links would be broken. To put them back again is a mamoth task and quite frankly it shouldn't be necessary.

It shouldn't be up to the complainant or the public to investigate the matter or to prove a complaint. I am a parent who has made formal allegations and have witnessed serious flaws in the complaint handling system. Policy and Procedure require that a formal investigation be undertaken. That this cannot be enforced is a serious flaw in the system.

People keep turning back the focus to what happend in school when I am trying to focus on the complaint handling processes used by the system to deal with the complaints as they have denied my family procedural fairness and natural justice and ensured that children are not protected.

dwg. The Ombudsman himself has stopped my family. I provided clear evidence in the first instance of bias and manipulation and then I provided clear evidence of a conspiracy to cover up. Even when I got the evidence that he originally said that he needed to investigate the matter, after taking the DET to the ADT, the Ombudsman said that it was too late and that once he closed a matter it was closed for good. The Ombudsman CHOSE to not investigate the matter and chose to close the complaint stating that he had discretion to do whatever he liked.

I am sorry to hear that you have had to go through this type of ordeal. I can see from what I have experienced that this is a system set up and I despair at the thought of how many innocent children are being mistreated and abused whilst our Government does nothing except look on and make enquiries and write reports.

Can I ask those who post to please focus on the issues at hand and that is the complaint handling process that has been designed by the system. Nobody can turn back time, what we are trying to do is to protect the children for the future. The persons who we allege are responsible have been promoted to postions of even more power - and they are being neither supervised, questioned or challeged.

As to my emotive language, I make no excuses. I am an emotional human being.

Jolanda,

It the complaints are frequent and made up. Why should they get investigated. Post your evidence or cease your lies.