I mean I Do Think It would be more than fair for them to give evidence for Peter McGuran. I really think its time these people were brought to size.

I am fed up with Animal Welfare being run by people who say one thing on their web site but behind closed doors say they wont help to open abattoirs.
Ok Ok They dont have to help if they dont want to but dont give the public the impression they are doing all they can when all thats happening is the people working to do just that9 turn it from live to chilled) are beeing attacked left right and center.

How come these people are the leaders thats what i want to know.
Isnt this telling lies to the public. Why dont they just say we are Veggies .

Well I best post this and hope I have not said too much.

I stopped posting because of the attacks but i am really really upset that they just dont mind their own business and that the animals suffer while others sit on theire@ and refuse to help!

Just for everybody`s information

The Alcoholic Anonymous prayer was originally

Written by Reinhold Niebuhr theologian in the 30`s or 40`s (1892-1971)Complete, Unabridged, Original Version below

God, give us grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things
which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish
the one from the other.

Living one day at a time,
Enjoying one moment at a time,
Accepting hardship as a pathway to
peace,
Taking, as Jesus did,
This sinful world as it is,
Not as I would have it,
Trusting that You will make all things
right,
If I surrender to Your will,
So that I may be reasonably happy in this
life,
And supremely happy with You forever in
the next.
Amen.

The prayer was circulated by the Federal Council of Churches and later in the United States Armed forces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer#History_and_text

Whew, there are advantages to being male. We have other things on
our minds, whilst you girls have your bitchfests :)

*Does this mean then Yabby that you are not a snake keeper? *

Indeed PF, I am the keeper of a very special trousersnake.
Its quite a practical specimen which has long concluded that
it does not need to buy a cow, in order to obtain a glass
of milk. Best to let somebody else feed and put up with
the cow, unless she's a very special cow.
Some of these snakes can be quite practical and
logical :)

Cuphandle,

"what happens to the Meat ?? " you ask.

I asked our "meat manager" on the job today at our preferred big supermarket, this exact question .

His answer without too much prying, was that they throw out "less than one percent ."

He also said that this was achieved by having "specials" and while this enabled them to sell 99% plus of their meat they often lost money on the "specials ".

Sounds like a fair thing to me and they seem to be consistent with their pricing .

The feeling I gleaned from his female offsider was that they really preferred to manage with the very minimum wastage of this acknowledged valuable product .

Dear God, what a nutter (not you, Yabby or Jim). A great lesson in how to achieve zero credibility and zero respect.
Nicky.

Spoken like a true snake in the grass :)

Practical? Or just incapable of getting the most from his cow? Only a good snake keeper knows how to keep a happy cow and keep that milk flowing. The bad keeper is resigned to the occasional glass of milk when it becomes available or has to settle for a substitute (like the powdered variety) Whats happens to this keeper when he himself is all dried up? Probably gets packed off to Guam to live out his days with the other keepers that all hold the notion that they too are the keepers of very special snakes. Explains the over population of snakes in Guam nicely!