Yes it's a concern about Mr Rudd, TarynW.

It's early days though and we shall allow him time to attend to all his immediate duties.

In the meantime, I shall continue networking, overseas and here, alerting all to the horrors of the live exports.

I shall use my endeavours to alert Yvo de Boer, head of the UN Climate Secretariat, to the eco vandalism committed by Australia's bully boys who continue dumping contaminated, dead animals and tonnes of sewage into international waters thus polluting the food chain.

The Stockholm Convention's edicts are to come into force next year, where all signatories (including Australia) must "eliminate or mitigate" their formations of dioxins - not increase them as Australia continues to do.

Humans ingest 97% of the lethal dioxins from the consumption of meat and dairy products. No country can continue exacerbating this ecological disaster by wilfully feeding dioxins to marine life.

http://www.agobservatory.org/library.cfm?refID=72846

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:Aj05DB7DSAkJ:www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16635/newsDate/1-Jul-2002/story.htm+dioxins+sheep+levels&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14&gl=au&lr=lang_en

http://www.epa.gov/msw/backyard/health.htm

If Mr Rudd remains incapable of differentiating between ecology and mythology (propagated by these louts,) then we can be assured that he too will go the same way as Mr Howard, currently this nation's top eco vandal.

*The farmers would chase the Muslims out of town and you well know it.*

Rubbish Gertrude and you know that. The saleyards are public areas
and anyone can go there and they do.

*What I want is representation at the trade faires world wide just "like everybody else*

You are free to go to a trade fair. Pay your thousands of $ as we
all have, display your products, see how far you get :)

As to Austrade including you, it is their job to pass good judgement
Including what is essentially an animal welfare group, in a meat
industry display, is not good judgement! You are not even qualified
to sell meat. Have you passed the test? Not anyone can sell
meat you know. Just because you are a member of the public, does
not entitle you to do as you please, when it comes to Austrade or
MLA.

Now to Dickie, who last week was outraged about algae, this week
its dioxin. She forgets of course, that these animals have and
are regularly passed by various health authorities as quite fit
for human consumption. But it seems oceans are now threatened, as
whilst humans may safely consume them, fish may not!

Hehe, what a comedy team we have on this thread :)

"Hehe, what a comedy team we have on this thread :"

Indeed we do Yabby. And we also have one big verbose ignoramus.

Despite the very credible links I last posted on dioxins (PCDDs,) you continue to make a complete goose of yourself.

Those links came from the European Union, The Institute for Agriculture and Trade and USEPA.

"that these animals have and are regularly passed by various health authorities as quite fit for human consumption."

Is that so Yabby? You're a liar. And they certainly are not tested for dioxins. One test alone is in the vicinity of $2000. You would not know a dioxin from the pox and testing for contaminants in livestock in Australia is voluntary.

However "random samples collected for the 20th ATDS in 2000/2001 were analysed for dioxins. For the general population, over 95% of exposure to dioxins is through the diet, with foods of animal origin such as meat, dairy products and fish being the main sources." (National Dioxins Programme Aust.)

And Dumbo continues to deny that dioxins are in meat and dairy products!

"DAFF does not support the routine testing of livestock commodities but would consider further testing in ten years subject to resources."

And surprise surprise, Yabby, sheep contained the highest levels of dioxins. Most of the animals "overboard" would be sheep, is that not correct?

Future Plans of the Federal Government:

"National Dioxins Program – National Action Plan for addressing dioxins in Australia diet.

"Work with Australian animal production industries to support implementation of voluntary measures to address hazards, including dioxins, in animal feeds."

And what voluntary measures would you adopt Yabby to ensure your sheep are safe for human consumption. Zilch?

And due to your ignorance about your own trade, Yabby, I hasten to inform you that the above, officially documented advice is solely from the Federal Government.

State governments, like you , remain asleep at the wheel.

The live export industry should be refused access to the oceans of this planet, and legal action instigated forthwith for breaches of the "Laws of the Sea."

Dickie, if you really are concerned about polluting the oceans,
go back in history a little. I remind you of the Europeans and
Americans, who dumped boatload after boatload of 44 gallon drums
filled with industrial toxins, into the world's oceans. Now they
simply take them out to sea and burn them out there in big ships.

As to Australian livestock and the relatively pristine conditions
that they live in, I remind you what happened in Belgium. Industrial
waste was being mixed into livestock feed, as nearly all livestock
in Europe, exist under hugely intenive conditions, compared to most
of ours, which live contented lives out in a natural environment.

As we are an agriculatural exporter however, we are compelled to test
for all sorts of things, which we do. The role of the NRS is
exactly that and we pay levies, in part to finance these tests.

When the Belgium story blew wide open, dioxins were yet another
group of chemicals that were tested for in Australia. The results
were extremely good and justified the claim of our pristine
environment, the safety of our products.

Not everyone, unlike you, jumps at every shadow. Not everyone,
unlike you, has an agenda about keeping livestock more like pets.

Now you want to threaten Mr Rudd, if he doesent see the world as
you do. Ah well, perhaps the libs might win the next election
after all :)

Yabby

You miss my point. Which is I can prove that many Asian Maylasian and a few ME people havve contacted several Farmers Federations direct over a long peroid of time.
They have requested to be introduced to Farmers and asked for help to let it be known they were interested to meet with them direct regarding establishing Halal Abattoirs and paying them a GOOD price for stock and supply.
Its NOT the Muslims that are not interested in opening plants here it the Government BLOCKING them and protecting their Industry buddies!

Farmers Federation heads are NOT there to make descions for farmers.
They are there in inform them of ALL offers .

Now as for Austrade its a federal Government funded body to promote ALL ventures and represent ALL people to promote ideads and business ventures from Australia to the world.

Again I can introduce you to four very successful butchers and growers who have approached Austrade to promote joint ventures and export red meat.
NONE of them were assisted!
As for going to trade faires why shouldnt we or any of these butchers be allowed to - put in their thousands to attend BUT recieve the Funding through MLA Austrade etc that the others do.?
Thats right I guess Yabby.
I am not selling meat.
I am just going what Mark Vaile was SUPPOSED to be doing for years!
Promoting and encouraging overseas interest in a partnership to increase exprts from Australia.
I will let you in on a little sectrey secret Yabby.
Its only when a country is exporting more than its importing its running properly.

As for the disease in dumping toured Animals in the sea the fact remains Australian tax payers have had to send millions off in the past as hush money to familes of the unfortunate they contaminated.
So dickes spot on.

"When the Belgium story blew wide open, dioxins were yet another
group of chemicals that were tested for in Australia. The results
were extremely good and justified the claim of our pristine
environment, the safety of our products." Yabby)

Please substantiate your claims. Which laboratory performed the tests for dioxins? Were they accredited? On which animals were the tests performed, were they random and what were the results?

And a link to support your claims is essential.