Hi there, Belly

How refreshing to debate with someone who hasn't got the cunning of a subterranean rodent and the intellect of a squashed musk-rat.

Belly, I remind you mining too commenced with colonisation.

The farming community tend to forget that this nation also produces over 65 mineral commodities.

Motor vehicles are the biggest export to the United Arab Emirates.

In 2004 Queensland were the largest exporters of sugar in the world and perhaps they still are.

During the mid 1800s wool exports totalled 41 million pounds. Nothing to do with live exports though, Belly?

This country has been good to its farmers. Sheep squatters established huge sheep runs for a 10 pound a year licence and could claim as much land as they wanted.

On average, farm sizes today have increased from 2800 to 4100 hectares, taking up 60% of Australia's land mass, though some have now been paid millions of our dollars to tie their land up for conservation.

Last year saw chilled meat exports to the ME total $6 billion. Live exports totalled $1 billion. Something wrong here, Belly? Come on mate.

"The Australian Farm Institute and Rural Industries Research and Development Corporation report says demand for meat and livestock feed is likely to grow between 30 and 50 per cent by 2020 in 12 Asian countries because their middle classes have grown so dramatically.

"But the report authors say with increasing affluence people in Asia are demanding and will demand more meat and dairy in their diets.

"Australia would have to open up more agricultural land for fodder crops, investigating the possibilities of growing more sorghum and maize in northern Australia.

"The report says live animal exports are likely to fall because with increasing wealth, Asian importers, supermarkets and consumers will have more facilities for chilling frozen meat imports.

"The report also forecasts Australia's Middle East live export market will be cut because of increased competition from closer African countries."

Well I shall do my best to see to that Belly, ever reminded that Karma works in weird and wonderful ways.

Apologies Belly

I omitted to respond to your question:

"Up the thread Dickie you say if you do not look after your animals you do not look after your kids? Tell me you do not believe that please."

Well yes, Belly I do believe it and normally you are a little more perceptive.

I understood perfectly why FrankGol asked me that question.

He may correct me, however, I believe he was referring to the flagrant, sexual and physical abuse of little Aboriginal kids (and perhaps past complexities.)

And the old codger, conveniently prior to an election, stepped in to make a difference, didn't he? Pity he was years too late eh?

However, both state and federal governments are equally culpable for permitting the long-term abuse of these kids. You see, Australian governments like to intervene quickly only when there's a quid to be made.

However our politicians are quick off the mark in intervening when people start protesting about the abject cruelty of the live animal exports where they condone this criminal practice and salivate over the immoral profits.

Ah yes....which reminds me of Mr Turnbull's public remark where he stated: "We object to the inhumane whale slaughter because we Australians love the animal." Hypocrite!

Frankly I do not differentiate between other species and little kids. They are all treated the same in my house simply because neither can defend themselves. It is the defenceless who fall prey to these monsters who cowardly exploit them for their own pleasure and perverse profits.

"Frankly I do not differentiate between other species and little kids. They are all treated the same in my house simply because neither can defend themselves"

This is of course the problem. People like Dickie, who clearly
have little or no experience with farm livestock, as distinct
from children or pets, who are trying to comment about an industry
that they simply don't understand, for lack of experience.

Dickie has clearly never had a pair of rams horns up her butt :)
Dickie has clearly never been charged by a wether and nearly had
her back or leg broken. Dickie knows nothing about pigs, even the
fact that they can be bloodthirsty creatures and as any pigfarmer
knows, give them a chance and they might well take a chunk out
of your leg.

I'd say that Dickie has watched Babe and other Holywood type
movies and thinks that its all sweet tippytoeing through the
tulips, when in reality its all very different.

This is exactly why we need experienced livestock people to
comment about livestock industries, not animal libber
groupies who don't understand the difference between livestock
and pets. They are not the same, but only experience will teach
you that.

"This is exactly why we need experienced livestock people to
about livestock industries, not animal libber
groupies who don't understand the difference between livestock
and pets. They are not the same, but only experience will teach
you that."

Yabby, There is no enlightenment in the dark sinister caverns in which you reside.

You are a sadist, beyond enlightenment and this is why you skulk around animal welfare sites, making a complete goose of yourself.

We debate on animal welfare sites because we love animals. You hijack those sites because you loathe them.

So why don't you seek some DIY therapy - go and drop a few 1080 baits or shoot up a few ferals.

"No difference" you say eh? So before you skulk off, have a look at the farm animals that kind, compassionate people keep as pets, which totally refutes your claim that pets are different to livestock.

http://www.pigs4ever.com/PotBelliedPigInfo/pottytraining.htm

http://www.ehow.com/how_2092855_keep-pet-cow.html

http://www.sheep101.info/pets.html

http://www.goatworld.com/articles/goatsaspets/goatsaspets.shtml

http://www.kval.com/younews/7264196.html

Ah....but this one will be more to your liking. You and this sociopath have so much in common!

Now read carefully. It's a gas for sheep shaggers and you can even learn how to blow up frogs with firecrackers!

Yeeeeeehahhhh!

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/conover01.htm

Dickie, the USA is overloaded with people just like you.
They know little about the natural insticts of various
species. An overwhelming flow of oxytocin and motherly
love, compel them to buy "defenceless", cute little
tigers, lions, chimps, alligators, boa constrictors,
along with a host of other species.

Invariably these animals grow up, grow larger and natural instincts
kick in. Disaster strikes, the ignorant learn
the hard way about the realities of nature.

Perhaps its time for you to learn about these things. My
suggestion is that you purchase a couple of cute little pet
piggies, preferably male, along with a couple of cute little
lambies, preferably male. Given your admission of no basic
knowledge of pigs or sheep, you have lots to learn.

When these little darlings grow to their full size and start
to exhibit their natural instincts, let me know how things
are going :)

My dear Yabby. My humble apologies. I do believe I have misjudged you and perhaps you are an animal lover afterall.

Only the other day, your cleaning lady approached me and told me that when she went to clean your bedroom, she found a sheep tethered to the bed and it was wearing lipstick and a nightie!