Yabby
I have Dickies tag- Gurtrude. I dont mind.
Now you know very well I am not a libber Yabbs.
The problem as I see it is that both yourself and Dickie are mis lead to a point.
Dickie while not working with any group clearly does follow their way of thinking.

Its really hard Yabby to see where the problem lies without first hand knowledge.
You know the meat trade is very involved and its as dirty as it can be.
Its on a par with petrol.
Its not going to happen but I would like to see some groups put their time into working with farmers to push MLA - the Government the councils and the Industry to re open plants.

Yes I hear you- Your saying. Nobody will work in plants.
Thats easily solved If the Governments get behind it.

But they wont. There is only ONE reason Why Yabby and thats the truth.

I know you dont beleive me about whats going on in high places but your not sixteen anymore.

The whole world operates that way so why you cant see whats driving the live trade is beyond me.

After Christmass I will open a thread and tell yu just a little of what has gone on.

In the mean time lets both agree that the libbers or AA or whatever you call them have done more to expose the cruelty than Hugh Wirth of RSPCA for twenty years.

Yep - sure he has made comments about the cruelty each and every time its hit the media.
The question IS however why did others have to bring it to light?

Dickies a good person Yabby and a hundred percent right.

Ah Yes. The question is why black list pale because they have tried.
What REALLY lies behind some??[ excluding Dickie.]

Many thousands of good people are being mis lead by just one or two leaders of Animal Veggie groups.

WHY protest live exports = only to WSPA a world wide band on people working to reopen abattoirs?
Interesting isnt it?

Whats for Christmass Dinner Yabbs?

"Lots is changing, who knows where it will end up. We used to
have a wool industry, prices dropped so low that half the
Australian flock vanished, as traders screwed farmers."

Spare us the tear jerkers, Yabby. Unlike you, we are not total drongoes.

2005-2006 saw wool production at 472 kts. 2006-2007 saw production at 465 kts and ABARE's projection for 2008 is 475 kts so quit ya sookin'.

The insignificant reduction in 06/07 was due to an increase in slaughter and a preference for prime lambs. You can't have it both ways, Yabby.

And any decrease in wool exports was mitigated by higher average prices.

Forecasts for 07/08 gross value of sheep and lamb slaughter predict a 22% increase over the 06/07 year.

NZ's wool production for the September quarter in 2006 saw a 27% increase for exports to China and 18.4% increase for wool exports to Italy.

And how are those pimples on ya tongue Yabby and I trust your Pinocchio nose is standing up to the cold weather in WA?

"Whatever the outcome, we need all round win-win solutions,
something that much of the animal libber and veggie movement
has overlooked to a large extent." (Yabby)

Yes I agree Yabby. To date only you and your criminal associates are winning but only in dollar terms by relishing the torture you perpetrate on other species.

Here's some government propaganda (relating to the WTO) where our hypocritical Australian leaders take the high moral ground:

"Protect our sovereignty
(we can safeguard national security and protect public morals)

"Protect our human, animal and plant life

"Conserve our natural resources and ensure environmental protection."

Protect animal life and the environment? Protect public morals? They must be joking?

And here's the first betrayal by our new government.

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/wa/content/2006/s2118261.htm

BTW, I received another response (written in Arabic) to one of my articles to institutes in the UK, US, Asia and the Middle East.

I am keen to keep this dialogue going with the ME. Is there anyone out there who is proficient in the Arabic language!?

"we are not total drongoes."

Actually it seems that you are Dickie :)

You clearly don't have the foggiest about the long term
nature of agriculture. A decision made on farm today,
can take years to show up in the figures.

Now be a good girl and go and have a look at wool production
and the size of the sheep flock in the early 90s, compared
to today.

"Now be a good girl and go and have a look at wool production
and the size of the sheep flock in the early 90s, compared
to today."

Perhaps your failure at wool production could be due to your zest for intensive farming and overstocking. Your Western Australian sheep have a high rate of cheesy gland. This of course reduces profits in wool (and meat) where these poor critters should be destroyed or perhaps off-loaded to other countries??

But I digress. Of course you were only scolding me from your own narrow perceptions. You know......"it's all about me. Me, me."

Hmm...you haven't developed any cheesy abscesses lately have you Yabby?

http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/content/pw/ah/dis/sl/fn2005_cheesy_gland.pdf

But of course, many farmers, more efficient in animal husbandry than you, appear to be making remarkable progress in wool production, up greatly in yield over the last 40 years.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:0a8E_B38zMgJ:www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/sheep/4993.html+wool+production+1990s+and+2005&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=au&lr=lang_en

Never mind Farmer Yabs. Did I see you've now won over Fiji to export misery and death to that region and the once pristine South Pacific?

Splendid! Imagine all those dead and diseased animals, faeces and urine Fiji's marine life can now enjoy as an entree.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:R8e8LVk9K4IJ:www.oceansatlas.com/cds_static/en/suva_fiji_south_pacific_ocean__en_19450_all_1.html+fiji+pacific+ocean+pollution+marine&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=au&lr=lang_en

ROFl Dickie, I just love it when somebody who hasn't the foggiest
about Australian agriculture, agro economics etc, tries to pretend
that they know something :)

As it happens, Australian dryland agriculture, as distinct from
American, European, Chinese, etc, is some of the most extensive
in the world, now you blame it all on intensive farming.

Have you never heard of the cost/price squeeze that's gone on
in agriculture here, for the last 50 years or so? Do you know
the first thing about farming?

Cheesy gland is vaccinated against, perhaps thats just another
thing that you didn't know.

Dickie, you really should get that Arabic letter translated.
Perhaps its an Arab sheik who wants an another old duck for
his harem :)

.

"Cheesy gland is vaccinated against, perhaps thats just another
thing that you didn't know."

There you go again Yabby. More pimples on that tongue.

Australian sheep have the highest incidence of cheesy gland in the world.

If they were vaccinated, then they wouldn't have cheesy gland, would they, Pinocchio Nose?

http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/sheep/8151.html

"Dickie, you really should get that Arabic letter translated.
Perhaps its an Arab sheik who wants an another old duck for
his harem :)"

Ooohhhhh.....a Freudian slip Yabby? I've long suspected that you fancy me. That's why you won't go away isn't it?

Now now Farmer Yab. Don't let your mind wander. It's too small to be let out alone.

Anyway you don't seem to be yourself today Yabby. I noticed the improvement immediately.

And you'll be delighted to know that my sex life isn't dead yet but the buzzards are circling.

Mmmm.........eeny meeny miney mo?

Nah...... me Mum always told me that life's too short to dance with ugly men!

I'll go for Sheik luvvyduks and his harem, thanks.