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Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 2:13:16 PM
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"The live trade is a complex issue. Tens of thousands of
peoples lives are at stake. Most have children too." (Yabby) What a sad story - believe me, I'm resisting those tears. Those poor little kids and their struggling parents. And tens of thousands of them! Oops here comes Yabby running down the tarmac to his new aeroplane he purchased from his recent live sheep exports, sobbing loudly and wearing an awfully red and runny honker. He's such a bleeding heart isn't he? Hey TarynW, where's that hanky, girlfriend? Now a baffling question. You know there were 4,815,801 of Australia's animals sent off last year to a gruesome death in the Middle East. Well who can tell me what happened to all that animal waste onboard? Was it tipped into the ocean? Australia ratified the MARPOL convention for the "Laws of the Sea" but exempted itself from one of the five pollutants - sewage! And we all know that the nitrogen and ammonia from animal waste is choking and killing the globe's oceans and its inlets and is mainly responsible for the environmentally destructive methane. Then there were the 43,427 pitiful animals who died during 06/07, unable to cope with their journey on the ships of shame. Were they thrown overboard too? Worse, marine life are meat eaters. Did they feed off these drug riddled critters and toxic sewage, further contaminating our fragile oceans and its inhabitants? And here's a bit of trivia from the other side of the world: "A microscopic `cell from hell' (pfiesteria piscicida) has exploded recently in numbers in U.S. coastal waters (newly enriched with sewage, animal waste (one area drained has 600 million chickens) and fertilizers), killing one billion fish. "Human interventions are creating whole new ecosystems. The pfiesteria cell also harms humans. "Maryland has closed 3 tributaries of Chesapeake Bay because of the problem. 14 million fish died in North Carolina in '95; Virginia fish in '97 had lesion rates of 75%." Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 5:22:01 PM
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Oops Dickie, I don't think you know one hell of a lot about
livestock nutrition, or that of marine life. I'll tell you something. Next time you have a pet goldfish, see if it thrives by drinking water, with no nutrients :) Let me explain it another way. When you fall off the proverbial perch, your crying relies might scatter your ashes on the sea, as they grab for your old hanky. Perhaps they will even borrow one from Gertrude. The N P K etc that used to be you, will quickly be taken up by algae and other lifeforms. They will be eaten by small fish, which will be eaten by larger fish. Eventually along will come a fishing fleet and your remains could well land up in the hold of the fishing boat. Now as it happens, it might well be a fishing boat from the Gulf and your remains might well land up on the plate of a large Arab in Mecca, ready for his dinner! Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 6:48:27 PM
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Thank you for responding to my questions Yabby. Your silence is deafening which confirms my suspicions that the live animal export industry is fouling our oceans and its marine life.
"Let me explain it another way. When you fall off the proverbial perch, your crying relies might scatter your ashes on the sea," (Yabby) And they may not Yabby. You see crematoria incinerations contribute to the very toxic emissions of bio-accumulative dioxins. So does your industry but then ignorance is bliss which also leads to vulgar profits, does it not Yabby? http://www.ejnet.org/crematoria/ And of course dioxins accumulate in the fatty tissue of livestock and this is where humans consume around 95% of their dioxin and furan intake. http://www.healthychildrenproject.org/exposures/chemicals.html Dioxins and furans have a devastating impact on human health which has caused global concern from all health authorities. The Stockholm Convention (which has sought urgent strategies), was formed purely because of dioxins. Dioxins invade the food chain Yabby which you like to contaminate with relish particularly by dumping dead and diseased livestock and their waste into our oceans. "Oops Dickie, I don't think you know one hell of a lot about livestock nutrition, or that of marine life." Is that so, Yabby? Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 7:38:42 PM
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Deary me Dickie. So if we burn you and you have silicone breast
inplants, thats going to damage the environment. Are you sure that you arn't going to die of worry first? Fact is that people are living longer then ever before, many too long. We have homes full of people in their 90s, their minds gone, virtual vegetables. I certainly hope to never become one of those. Give me a good old timely heart attack, before I get to that point. Life is a journey and its about enjoying it whilst it lasts, not when you get to the destination. As to the oceans, its a matter of fact, no nutrients = no fish. Ask anyone in the fishing industry what happens when there is a land drought. As those rivers arn't carrying all those nutrients out to sea, prawn and fish catches plummet. Pollution is a problem when we have overconcentration of nutrients, which is another story. I don't have the foggiest as to what happens with the waste from live sheep ships, I have never asked them. What I do know is that some of the oceans they sail through are miles deep and lacking in marine life. Marine life only forms, where there are nutrients to be recycled. The oceans are a bit like land with no rain, its a desert. Any nutrients from live sheep ships would only benefit marine life, so it seems to me that you have your knickers in a twist for no good reason, yet once again. Yes farmers aim to make a profit, as workers aim to profit from their wages. Clearly you got paid for your labours, so should farmers, they feed you after all. Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 8:34:48 PM
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"As to the oceans, its a matter of fact, no nutrients = no fish.
Ask anyone in the fishing industry what happens when there is a land drought. As those rivers arn't carrying all those nutrients out to sea, prawn and fish catches plummet." (Yabby) Yabby, You are incredibly thick, stupid, a jerk. Your psychotic propensity to lie now has you believing your own garbage. Nutrients create algal blooms. Algal blooms cause low oxygen. Low oxygen kills marine life and sea grasses. Get it? http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2006/2006-10-19-03.asp 'What I do know is that some of the oceans they sail through are miles deep and lacking in marine life. Marine life only forms, where there are nutrients to be recycled." (Yabby) http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/science/20060219-9999-1n19marine.html Pay attention Yabby. These are called "Dead Zones." Dead Zones are caused by nutrients which are caused by agricultural run-off, animal wastes etc. And here's what the Europeans think of Australia's heinous live animal exports, its eco vandals and its traders in misery. http://www.naturewatch.org/campaigns/australia/Background.asp Dumpkoff! Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 11:04:59 PM
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Pale, err Gertrude, interesting that you think you know more about the WA
labour market, then all the Govt departments involved, or the meat processing
industry. Clearly the Gold Coast Old Ducks club is alive and well!
*we WILL OBJECT TO CONTINUE
TO PAY!*
So don’t pay your 5c, see if I care lol. Farmers levies are the major funder
of all that MLA do, including money for animal welfare.
*you would be amazed how
quickly the Government and the councils would reopen plants.*
Gertrude, in a market economy, governments don’t run meat plants, they
don’t build cars either. That’s the reality.
*What do you think Governments are for if not to RULE the country.*
Tyrants and dictators rule countries. In a democracy, politicians are elected
to serve the community. Big difference ! If they tried to rule as you suggest,
they might well be turfed out of office rather quickly. We are not in Russia here.