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Before The Bang

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Take time to think about it. Why is everything a circle.
Posted by evolution, Sunday, 14 October 2007 1:01:08 AM
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Some of us prefer to recognise order and design as emerging from darkness and chaos that pre-existed the present ordered cycles in which we live; ordered and created by the moral mind and Spirit behind it all. Others speculate on the immagination and fantacy of their own philosophy and the negative biased mind of anti-creation.

I prefer to believe the human mind is the height of a design order that emerged from a former chaos (an effect) from among ionic chemical changes that reflect the mind that designed the nature of time, space and matter. I am happy enough to believe that matter or its component chemicals are eternal, though undergoing constant change in form and design. After all man in his present intelligent form has only been around a few thousand years, and is temporarily on this Earth.

The cyclic nature of the present design was expressed 2,500 years ago by the ancient texts of Job and by Solomon (Eccl 3: 1 - 12). A text that has been used in a recent song on turning - turning. Death and decay is the nature of the present chemical world, however the mind purpose and spirit behing the universe is eternal.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 14 October 2007 5:42:12 AM
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Thanks philo, that was deep. But to conclude on the big bang thing, I will just say this.

500 hundred years ago everyone one knew the world was flat.
300 hundred years ago everyone knew the earth was the centre of the universe.
And five minutes ago we all learnt something we didn't know before.

Imagine what we will learn tomorrow.
Posted by evolution, Sunday, 14 October 2007 11:57:43 PM
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Evolution,
I see you have the first "men in black" in your collection!
Posted by SPANKY, Monday, 15 October 2007 6:12:12 AM
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Evolution,
The ancient text of Job, which is about 2,500 + years old, mentions that El the god of the earth in his watch encircles the Earth. This suggests that some writers among the ancient Chaldeans believed the Earth was a sphere. This is the only text in the Bible that mentions the shape of the Earth, and is concluded from the shape of the sun and the moon that is hung on nothing in space.

It appears the ancient Persian astrologers also were far more advanced in their knowlege of the planets and stars than the developing world of Rome.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 15 October 2007 8:03:40 AM
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Yes spanky, I thought it was relevant and I just loved the show. I have the strongest feelings, that we are not told everything that is going on, but none the less, we are moving forward very quickly. Maybe these shows are giving us little cryptic messages. I just wish this world would grow up, but that wont be anytime soon. I just hope we make it, I really do. Sorry for the dummy spit, but I really hate this century.
The big bang theory will be explained one day have no doubt of this, and the god that some believe in, will also be explained as well. We as a species are still very young and have a long way too go, but I think we will all be alright. We just need too get off this planet.
Its sick and getting sicker. Climate change and overpopulation, is pushing this planet the edge. We are no longer a species, but a virus.
This planet can not cope this pressure and it has been long over due for this earths next change. I strongly feel, we are running out time.
Posted by evolution, Monday, 15 October 2007 8:21:31 PM
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