"Hence the discussion on rape. Keep up."

There was no discussion on rape. Just you trying to introduce items not in discussion to try to make others out to be on the extreme.

There was no discussion on Jews.. You just introduced it to try to make out others were on the extreme.

There was no discussion on sex offenders...just you trying to introduce extremist views.

And then hilariously he claims to " actually engage with the arguments of others." Self-reflexion isn't a strong point, eh?

You can play this little game where people are biological females and gendered males, but its all in your fantasies. In the real world, people who are gendered female claim to be actual females. They claim the right to go into female areas. They claim the right to go into female sports. They claim the right to go to female prison. They claim the right to be referred to as a women. Equally trans men claim to be actual men. They want prostate exams FFS.

I don't care if they want to play these little dress-up games. Their call. But I'll be damned if I will go along with their fantasies or be forced to cater to their delusions.

"It may be a sign of our times that everyone seems to be talking openly about sex but we seem to be too embarrassed to talk about love". Thomas Sowell

Daysh

Your twaddle isn't interesting enough for me to bother proving that you are wrong. Everyone here knows that you are wrong, anyway. Going back to ignoring you will be fine for me. Hell, man, you are just another loser rabbiting on to less than a handful of people, and achieving nothing.

mhaze,

So, you mean to tell me that you never even hinted at the issue of rape or sexual assault?

“It exists to allow people with vaginas and scars where their breast used to be to claim they are men and rightfully able to use the men's bathroom. Worse, it allows people who have penises and adam's apples and prostates to claim to be women and use the female bathroom.” - mhaze

Why is the latter “worse” then, mhaze?

There goes the other foot!

That’s what happens when you resort to character assassination when your only intention is to win an argument. Dishonesty always exposes itself at some point or another.

Try engaging with my arguments again instead of sifting through my words to find something you can skew or take out of context to make me look bad? Perhaps you could start by telling me why you think each of those things you listed are bad, and who these transgender men are who have demanded prostate exams?

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ttbn,

Yet you have the motivation to attack me personally? No, I’m not buying it. It would be far easier to shut me up with a solid rebuttal or to ignore me entirely. The fact that you go to the effort of hurling insults speaks volumes.

Foxy claims to be a Small L Liberal (Left Libertarian) at times it seems but I think women do lean into certain progressive concepts not realizing that they originate in Marxism. However I think that Foxy is using naivety as a shield.

John Daysh is perhaps somewhere in the Libertarian sphere just repeating idioms without understanding the deeper Political Philosophy and Ideology. Sadly as I said previously many Libertarian's also appear to repeat Marxist propaganda.

I wonder in what sense John Daysh means by saying that I don't understand Marxism. Saying something doesn't give it a basis or plausibility

What if the law over rules science? What are the implications?

Laws are made by the people for the people. And changes of
law usually reflect changes in society. Outmoded laws are
often replaced by new ones as societies evolve.

There was a time when homosexuality was a crime. When same-sex
marriage was forbidden. Today we have many countries that now
legally recognize sex reassignment by permitting a change of
legal gender on an individual's birth certificate.

This is recognition of the fact that many transgender people do
have permanent surgery to change their body. And, all gender
affirming surgeries are major procedures.

It's recognizing reality. Surgery affirms changing one's physical
body so that it better aligns with how they understand and wish
to express their gender. Who they are.

Many countries now legally recognize sex reassignment
by permitting a change of legal gender on an individual's
birth certificate. This is in keeping with the
reality of our society. Transgender people have rights.
Which need to be recognized in law.

People like Carlotta, the Australian transgender cabaret
performer and TV personality (the Queen of King's Cross) and
Catherine McGregor, the transgender writer, commentator,
and former Defence Force Officer (and friend of Tony Abbott)
give so much to our society.

It's time society gave something back to them.

Legally recognizing their right to be who they really are is
only fair.

BTW - Speaking about science?
There are some things which science cannot answer.
Such as the meaning and purpose of life. That's why for example,
religions survive and will continue to do so for sometime yet.