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What if the Law Overules Science ? What are the Implications ?

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Can the Law Overrule Science ?
I have been waiting for someone more knowledgeable than me to take up
this cudgel.
The recent court case which is now likely to go to the High Court to
decide that a man can really change into a woman by just saying so and
all other persons just have to accept that as fact.

Now my challenge is to the court to prove that its decision has
changed the science.
Has that man had his genitalia disappear and be replaced with female genitalia.
If not then the court’s decision is just playing with words.
It has not changed the science and so reality has not changed either.

The court needs to return to its own field and stop trying to change scientific fact.
No doubt if OLO accepts this there will be uproar or will ‘they’ just
try to ignore it all.
Think of the implications if it is accepted that the law overrules science.
To protect Insurance Companies the court could rule that a cyclone did
not cause any damage.
I am sure you can think of many such opportunities.
That might seem absurd, but then the whole situation is absurd.
Posted by Bezz, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 1:43:56 PM
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This is what Bezz is talking about:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13771195/Meet-Roxy-Tickle-transgender-campaigner-changed-Australia-court-win-redefines-woman-is.html

The whole thing is symbolic of the struggle against reality:
http://youtu.be/chnlQQCsTVw
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 3:05:14 PM
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Bezz,

You appear to be confusing gender with biological sex. Understanding the difference between these two concepts will help to eliminate a lot of the confusion for you.

The world hasn't gone topsy-turvy. We simply have a better understanding than we used to of these two aspects of human identity and how they're interconnected.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 4:04:54 PM
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So how do you disconnect gender from biological sex ?
Your reply will be like one of those late night talks on the ABC that
discuss all sorts of trendy ideas that get pushed around as philosophy.
Posted by Bezz, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 4:23:30 PM
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I have just read that link to the case. It did not provide more info
than I had already picked up.
Where do the judges get off telling people we have to ignore the
science and obey their crazy beliefs ?
What other cases are there where rulings contradict scientific reality
and do we have to toe the legal writ ?
I will bet there are dozens if I knew where to look.
How about people complaining I used the wrong pronoun ?
Could that be an offence on something or other ?
Offensive behaviour perhaps ?
Perhaps all lawyers whould be forced to work in the building trade
for a year or two.
Posted by Bezz, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 4:44:16 PM
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Bezz,

There's nothing to disconnect. The two concepts have always described different things. They're related but not the same.

Biological Sex refers to the physical aspects of a person’s body (e.g. chromosomes, hormones, and reproductive organs).

Gender is about how a person perceives and experiences themselves. It also involves roles, behaviours, and expectations that society traditionally associates with being male or female.

Recognising this difference doesn’t mean we’re ignoring biology; it just means we’re acknowledging that human identity is complex.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 4:46:50 PM
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