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What if the Law Overules Science ? What are the Implications ?

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How is seeing the conflict "between the establishment and the progressives Galileo and Socrates" from both sides "historical disinformation". You could argue that seeing things from only one side as disinformation.

I don't see the Hudson institute as Independent as they have strong links with Monash University. I don't think I would see any western institution as independent at this point- especially when the Hudson institution is linked so closely with university institution- this is particularly starkly illustrated due to the disproportionately high "Voice Vote" in Canberra where the bureaucracy dominates the electorate in higher proportions to other territories.

Sadly universities are engines of indoctrination rather than Socrates vision of centres of thought. Teach before preach.

The way Foxy talks she doesn't seem to be very scientifically knowledgeable despite her claims of working for CSIRO. But I've been disappointed with the outputs of the CSIRO for a while. Perhaps the CSIRO needs to be defunded like the ABC.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 2:06:39 PM
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Canem Malum,

Yes, it's always the Jews and homosexuals, isn't it? It must all be part of the gay/Jewish media conspiracy!

Sorry, but again, soy does not have a feminising effect:

http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224
http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20378106
http://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/soy

And, yes, it's the far-right and alt-right perpetuating this myth - as you are ironically demonstrating as we speak.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 2:43:19 PM
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The Hudson Institute of Medical Research has five specialist
centres which bring together the best professionals in
Australian science and medicine to conduct basic and clinical
research and provide hope for the wider community.

The centres specialize in: innate immunity and infectious
diseases, in cancer research, in reproductive health, in
endocrinology and metabolism and the Ritchie Centre - in
obstetrics and gynaecology and paediatrics.

Our gender identity, the sense of whether one is male or
female is one of the most sexually differentiated traits
in humans. Growing evidence has led to a new conception of
psychosexual development as a result of genetic, hormonal,
and psychosocial influences.

Future studies are needed to better clarify the complex
inter-action between genes, anatomy, and hormonal
influences on psychosexual development.

__________________________________________________________________

Talking about Galileo?

Galileo was put under house arrest by the Vatican for saying
that the earth moved around the sun. In fact, in 1633 the
church made him recant his theory of the universe.

As we can see, while Galileo's and other wonderful
discoveries were being made not much had been learnt by the
political elite in 2000 years since Socrates' -murder by the state
with CSIRO in 2006 being forbidden to publicly discuss
the implications of climate change.

New ideas, instead of being welcome as Prof. Hundloe said -
were seen as threats to those who had become comfortable in
their ideologies (religious or otherwise).

For some - nothing changes. However, scientists will, and do,
carry on regardless. Because that's what they do.
And that is more important than all the naysayers put together.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 3:13:58 PM
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Cuts to CSIRO?

Really?

Cuts to research into neuroscience, colorectal cancer, to
water safety, advanced manufacturing, and much, much, more.
Cuts would have a detrimental impact in so many areas. The
public would not stand for it.

Why would anyone suggest a cut in resources at a time like this?

Cuts to our national broadcaster - the ABC?

Also - really?

Cuts to the delivery of original investigative journalism,
local and regional news gathering and reporting, cuts would
also pose a dangerous threat to the creation of original
Australian TV productions, particularly drama.

Again, the public would not stand for it. We need more
innovation, greater choice in this country. The Murdoch
Press controls enough as it is.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 3:42:22 PM
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Everyone, please refrain from referring to gender and/or sexuality as "identity".

Foxy, for example, just wrote:

«Our gender identity, the sense of whether one is male or female is...»

A sense is not an identity, and the sense of gender is no exception.

We may be playing the social role of a male or a female, or we may wish to play some different such role in society - fair enough, that can be referred to as our "gender".

But that gender of ours is not us, it is just something that some of us may have, and if we do then it is OUR gender:
please refrain from speaking of it as "identity" because something we have can never be identical to us who have it!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 5:40:08 PM
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Our identities are made up of many parts.
Things like our culture, sexuality, religion,
age, our body, gender, and lots more.
Our identities are personal, no one can tell us
how to identify.
We are who we are.

Regarding gender identity?

Taken from the web:

"Gender identity is your sense of whether
you are a man, woman, nonbinary, gender fluid,
or a combination of one or more of these
identities. It's part of your sense of self. It's how you
understand who you are and how you inter act with others."

" For many people their understanding of who they are, their
gender identity will match their sex. This is called being
cisgender (pronounced - sis-gender). For some people, this
gender identity might not match the sex they were assigned at
birth and those individuals might choose to identify as
transgender. For example being assigned female at birth but
idendifying as a man."

" It's important to remember that there is more to gender than just
being "male" or "female." Some people understand their gender as
being a combination of both, male or female, or neither. These
people might choose identity as being gender diverse or non-
binary. There are many words people choose to describe their
gender identity."

" The words people choose to describe their gender identity are
very personal. Other ways of expressing gender identity refers
to the way people publicly express their gender and may include
how they behave, their appearance, what they choose to wear.."

"Gender identity like sexuality is fluid. It can change with
time. This is completely normal. You don't have to label your
gender identity. However if you choose to label your sexuality
or gender it's your choice. It's what feels best for you. And
when you're ready - embrace and celebrate it."
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 10:11:07 AM
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