Mr Mhaze Trumpster,

Paul has no time for either The criminal Trump, or the gar-gar Biden. So don't claim, "Paul who likewise falls for the propaganda, gather around and try to ensure each other that all is well and they aren't being led down the garden path." YOU are a liar!

BTW, you soon skedaddled off the vaping thread when I showed you up as a liar making false claims, with your spin that the NZ Government was supporting your deadly vaping habit.

" So don't claim, "Paul who likewise falls for the propaganda"

Did you not thank Foxy for the link? Did you not accept that it was true?

Do I really need to remind you of what you said only a day or two ago?

Re Vaping, I stopped posting there when it became clear that you had no intention of addressing the facts. Specifically, I showed proof that the dramatic change in smoking rates between Aust and NZ AFTER 2020 was due to vaping and you simply refused to address it. You had started a thread about vaping without actually knowing anything about it and had, as usual, simply fallen for the propaganda emanating from your gurus. I got bored trying to educate you when it was clear you had no intention of being educated.

Take a good look at Biden.
This is the man who was V.P. under Obama, and Ukraine was his project. This braindead zombie steered the world towards a nuclear conflict with Russia and got hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed.
- The West should've taken the Minsk agreements more seriously, but they wanted war.

1/2/2020 Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived | TheHill
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived
>>Two years after leaving ofice, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into iring its top prosecutor.
In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.
“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.<<

Meanwhile...

Orban meets Putin for ‘peace mission’, infuriating the EU, worrying Ukraine
http://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/viktor-orban-meets-vladimir-putin-for-peace-mission-infuriating-the-eu-worrying-ukraine-20240706-p5jrjz.html

>>Moscow: Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban held talks on a potential Ukrainian peace deal with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday, angering some European Union leaders who warned against appeasing Moscow and said he did not speak for the EU.<<
- 'How dare that man engage in actual diplomacy when we want continued war. He does not speak for us.'

Does America Need a President?
http://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/opinion/biden-president-america.html

Hi Paul,

I watched "The Abyss - Rise and Fall of the Nazis" series
on SBS last night. An interesting series that explores the
Third Reich's rise - from a contemporary perspective to
investigate how the Nazis managed to conquer Germany and
their rise to power." To Make Germany Great Again".

The parallels between the techniques that Hitler used and
the techniques that Trump were identical. Chilling
actually and explained a great deal, especially the party
support that Hitler received - and why he received it.
Explained a lot about the Republican Party in the US.
Hitler, like Trump promised to get rid of democracy.

The American elections are now just 4 months away.
Americans have to decide what kind of country they want
to have, and what kind of leader to lead them. Hopefully
they will choose wisely.

The Democrats have to decide - whether Biden needs to
step aside . And whether or not to persuade him to do so.

Again, they also need to choose wisely.

All we can do is wish them all well.

See you on another discussion.

Robert Conquest wrote a book called "The Great Terror" about the massive death toll of Stalin's Russia. The usual apologists refused to believe it and claimed that, since the Russians denied it, it wasn't true.

After the fall of the USSR, the Soviet archives were opened and proved that everything Conquest had written was true. A few years later a new addition of the book was being done to incorporate this new information. Conquest was a considering a new name for his book and one of his friends. Kingsley Amis, suggested " I Told You So, You Fxxking Fools?".

People on the left are now coming out from all corners admitting they knew about Biden's decline for years but that it was hidden for base political purposes. The good governance of the nation was ignored. We now have journalists admitting that interviews with Biden were completely scripted, that adverse information was suppressed.

People on the right tried to get the truth out for years while the nation was ripped apart under the rule of an increasingly decrepit president. Its glorious to see the fools that fell for all this finally have to acknowledge that they were led, very willingly, down the garden path, but I have to say I feel a little like Kingsley Amis..." I Told You So, You Fxxking Fools?"

Joe Biden is a liar and his lies are dangerous.

Let's look at exactly what Biden said in the debate:

READ: Biden-Trump debate transcript
http://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/27/politics/read-biden-trump-debate-rush-transcript/index.html

>> BIDEN: The fact is that Putin is a war criminal. He’s killed thousands and thousands of people. And he has made one thing clear: He wants to re-establish what was part of the Soviet Empire. Not just a piece, he wants all of Ukraine. That’s what he wants.

And then do you think he’ll stop there? Do you think he’ll stop when he – if he takes Ukraine? What do you think happens to Poland? What do you think of Belarus? What do you think happens to those NATO countries?

And so, if you want a war, you ought to find out what he’s going to do. Because if, in fact, he does what he says and walks away – by the way, all that money we give Ukraine and weapons we make here in the United States. We give them the weapons, not the money at this point. And our NATO allies have produced as much funding for Ukraine as we have. That’s why it’s – that’s why we’re strong. <<

'Do you think he'll stop there?' Biden asks.

Well, Putin already did stop.
He withdrew forces from Kiev on March 29 2022 in relation to peace negotiations.
Read what the Ukrainian chief negotiator said: