Ukraine conflict could have ended in Spring 2022: David Arakhamia
http://www.1lurer.am/en/2023/11/25/Ukraine-conflict-could-have-ended-in-Spring-2022/1036355

>>Russia was ready to stop the fighting had Ukraine agreed to remain neutral, but the West advised Kyiv to keep going, the head of President Vladimir Zelensky’s parliamentary faction – and the chief negotiator at the peace talks in Istanbul – David Arakhamia admitted on Friday.

Arakhamia, who heads the ‘Servant of the People’ parliamentary group, told the TV channel 1+1 that Moscow had offered Kyiv a peace deal in March 2022, but the Ukrainian side did not trust Russia.

“Russia’s goal was to put pressure on us so that we would take neutrality. This was the main thing for them: They were ready to end the war if we accepted neutrality, like Finland once did. And we would make a commitment that we will not join NATO. This was the main thing,” said Arakhamia.

However, agreeing to neutrality and giving up NATO membership would have required changing the constitution of Ukraine, Arakhamia explained. “Secondly, there was no trust in the Russians that they would do this. This could only be done with security guarantees,” he told 1+1.

During the talks, Arakhamia added, British then-PM Boris Johnson arrived in Kyiv and told Ukrainian officials to keep fighting and not sign any agreements with Moscow.

Johnson’s role in scuttling the peace talks in Istanbul was revealed in May 2022 by the outlet Ukrayinska Pravda. However, neither the British politician – who was ousted as PM in June that year and eventually landed a job at an American think tank – nor the US government ever officially acknowledged pressuring Kyiv into reneging on the draft agreement, which Arakhamia himself had signed with the Russians.

Earlier this year, Russian President Vladimir Putin revealed to African leaders that Moscow and Kyiv had signed a draft agreement “on permanent neutrality and security guarantees for Ukraine” at the talks hosted by Türkiye.

As soon as Russia pulled back its troops from the vicinity of Kyiv, as a gesture of good will, Ukraine reneged on the deal, Putin said.<<

Its now reported that the US leading expert on Parkinson's Disease has attended the White House 9 times since 2023.

I can't imagine why.

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"As soon as Russia pulled back its troops from the vicinity of Kyiv, as a gesture of good will, "

Wow, what a dill.

Russia invades Ukraine and makes a mad dash for Kiev to hopefully conquer the whole region in a few days before the west can react.

The push to Kiev collapses completely due to bad panning, bad equipment, bad logistics and determined Ukrainian resistance.

Russia pulls back, tail between its legs, loosing untold quantities of equipment.

Russia spins the debacle as a peace move rather than a monumental military screw-up.

The usual dills fall for it.

"The usual dills fall for it."
- The usual dills like you.

What, you don't believe what the Ukrainian chief negotiator said in regards to peace talks in March 2022?
And you think this does not align with Russia pulling back on March 29?

I can understand the pathetic 'Everything Russia says is a lie' narrative / attitude.
But when you imply the Ukrainians chief negotiator is lying too, well then you start to look a little stupid.

I don't know why you support Trump, when you sell the Biden Ukraine narrative.
It's a bit messed up.

Oh and btw, Russian Ministry of Defense count for Ukrainian KIA yesterday was 2225.
- But that's a conservative estimate as Russia doesn't count tanks etc as men lost, they count that Ukrainian armoured units destroyed.

Andrei Martyanov: Ukraine's Total Collapse Imminent?! Israel Faces Crushing Defeat by Hezbollah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwroEt2ov9E

"Russia invades Ukraine and makes a mad dash for Kiev to hopefully conquer the whole region in a few days before the west can react."
- It was Biden himself stating in the week prior to Feb 22,2022 that the Russian invasion was imminent; and the US spent 8 years arming, training and building defenses from 2014 making the Ukrainian army the strongest in Europe except Turkey.
And of course Biden knew, Russia told them that they would if they did sign a new collective security agreement in regards to NATO expansion, even Jens Stoltenberg admitted it.

'before the West had time to react' - what rubbish.
The West had been provoking it for 8 years since the Maidan and overthrow of the democratically elected government lead by Viktor Yanukovych in 2014.

'Russia spins the debacle as a peace move rather than a monumental military screw-up.'
- Russia doesn't have to spin anything, all these things are stated by Westerners.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

>>Jens Stoltenberg: First of all, it is historic that now Finland is member of the Alliance. And we have to remember the background. The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite. He has got more NATO presence in eastern part of the Alliance and he has also seen that Finland has already joined the Alliance and Sweden will soon be a full member.<<

The Russian advance on Kiev was defeated and the Russian forces, or what was left of them, retreated in significant disorder. Russia calls it a goodwill withdrawal.

AC buys the Russian story. We wouldn't expect anything different.

Well even if you don't believe that, the US is still a stupid weak nation.
They convinced the Ukrainians to fight instead of making peace.
And the Ukrainians are going to end up with a million plus dead, loss of more territory the more they fight as well as Ukraine, NATO and the collective West will lose the war, Europe is deindustrialised and the United States is a failing empire.
As for NATO after proving incapable of defending Europe it might end up crumbling as well.
Trump sure as hell doesn't want America to pay for it.
But he's making protectionist policies which will just see the US sink just as quick.
The US will soon have trouble funding it's debts.
It's been given warning by the IMF already.
Interest payments will soon be more than the MIC, Medicaid and pensions combined.
There's really no way back for them except war.
(Except the small issue that they will lose without the use of nuclear weapons, US can't fight ground wars)